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  • E Eytukan

    :) Long back there was a guy called "Osmo" who wrote his own language & compiler (Plain English compiler) and wanted everyone to follow him. This is sounding similar. I guess Georani could be the son of.. creator of this historic tragedy called VB.

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    CPallini
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    Oh the Osmosians, we Klingons destroyed them a while ago. :-D

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    • M Mark Miller

      On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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      CPallini
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      It was not your fault, it was VB... :rolleyes:

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      • M Mark Miller

        On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

        Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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        Sander Rossel
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        Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:

        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:

          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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          Is this the typical VB programmer? [^] :-D :laugh: :-D :laugh:

          Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:

            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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            PeejayAdams
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            I worked with VB.NET before I worked with C# and I kind of think that it does deserve a fair portion of the hate that it gets. On the rare occasions that I have to revisit it, I find it excruciating. There's something about "IIF" (eeeeeefffff?) in particular that makes me want to die. And in any case, any language that is littered with the word "Dim" is fundamentally self descriptive. Sander's charitable attitude towards VB is obviously rooted in nostalgia and can be forgiven but it boils down to a simple case of C# == good, VB = rank - there's no need for the jury to retire on this one. And yes, it would be nice if people didn't get so damned opinionated about languages! :)

            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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            • M Mark Miller

              On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

              Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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              Ravi Bhavnani
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              You're a good man, Mark.  :thumbsup: /ravi

              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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              • M Mark Miller

                On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                Slacker007
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                After reading the other replies you made, it looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts? Anyhow, it probably will not be the last time you vent like that. I have been warned many times in the last 11+ years here that I am acting like an asshole, and need to stop. Recently I was threatened with a temporary ban after pooping all over the Soapbox. That was a wake up call. Cheers. :)

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                • M Mark Miller

                  A long time ago I worked in interpreted BASIC, then QuickBasic, then a variant of BASIC called Metropolis (used in Alpha-Micro minis), FoxPro and a few other languages, and then I discovered C# and never looked back. I've always looked at programming language discussions wars like this: If you enjoy programming in language XYZ, have at it! If you can make a living working in it, even better! Just please don't try to ram your preferred language down my throat. Sorta like the old tabs vs spaces battle... :-D

                  Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                  Forogar
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                  TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  • M Mark Miller

                    On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                    Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                    realJSOP
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                    Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    • M Mark Miller

                      On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                      Eric Lynch
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                      Meh...I've seen worse, but its nice to see someone be self-aware for a change. In fairness, the initial proposition was silly (and oft-repeated). Languages are simply tools. My current favorite is C#, but that changes easily, depending on the size of the paycheck :)

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                      • S Slacker007

                        After reading the other replies you made, it looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts? Anyhow, it probably will not be the last time you vent like that. I have been warned many times in the last 11+ years here that I am acting like an asshole, and need to stop. Recently I was threatened with a temporary ban after pooping all over the Soapbox. That was a wake up call. Cheers. :)

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                        Mark Miller
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                        Slacker007 wrote:

                        looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts?

                        Very perceptive - didn't feel like a bad mood, but it was Monday morning after a wonderful weekend with family...

                        Slacker007 wrote:

                        probably will not be the last time you vent like that

                        You are probably right about that! ;)

                        Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                          You're a good man, Mark.  :thumbsup: /ravi

                          My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                          Mark Miller
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                          Thanks, Ravi!

                          Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                            Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            Mark Miller
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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                            Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

                            Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                              TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\

                              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                              :laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup:

                              Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                                Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

                                Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                Slacker007
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                                John has been using that line sporadically here at the site for many, many years now.

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                                  John has been using that line sporadically here at the site for many, many years now.

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                                  Rage
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                                  John Wayne was a Cpian ??

                                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                  • M Mark Miller

                                    On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                                    Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                    Rage
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                                    Mark Miller wrote:

                                    in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for

                                    SO you behaved like 99.99999999% of the people already behaved once on the internet ? You do not need to apologize for being human.

                                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                      John Wayne was a Cpian ??

                                      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                      Slacker007
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                                      Um, err, John Simmons IS John Wayne! I thought everyone knew that. :)

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                                      • M Mark Miller

                                        On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                                        Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                        kmoorevs
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                                        It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                                        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:

                                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                                          VB.NET was my first programming language

                                          Great, now I really feel old! :laugh: This[^] is where I started.


                                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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