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  • M Mark Miller

    On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

    Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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    Slacker007
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    After reading the other replies you made, it looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts? Anyhow, it probably will not be the last time you vent like that. I have been warned many times in the last 11+ years here that I am acting like an asshole, and need to stop. Recently I was threatened with a temporary ban after pooping all over the Soapbox. That was a wake up call. Cheers. :)

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      A long time ago I worked in interpreted BASIC, then QuickBasic, then a variant of BASIC called Metropolis (used in Alpha-Micro minis), FoxPro and a few other languages, and then I discovered C# and never looked back. I've always looked at programming language discussions wars like this: If you enjoy programming in language XYZ, have at it! If you can make a living working in it, even better! Just please don't try to ram your preferred language down my throat. Sorta like the old tabs vs spaces battle... :-D

      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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      Forogar
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      TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      • M Mark Miller

        On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

        Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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        realJSOP
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        Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • M Mark Miller

          On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

          Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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          Eric Lynch
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          Meh...I've seen worse, but its nice to see someone be self-aware for a change. In fairness, the initial proposition was silly (and oft-repeated). Languages are simply tools. My current favorite is C#, but that changes easily, depending on the size of the paycheck :)

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          • S Slacker007

            After reading the other replies you made, it looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts? Anyhow, it probably will not be the last time you vent like that. I have been warned many times in the last 11+ years here that I am acting like an asshole, and need to stop. Recently I was threatened with a temporary ban after pooping all over the Soapbox. That was a wake up call. Cheers. :)

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            Mark Miller
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            Slacker007 wrote:

            looks like you were in a bad mood of sorts?

            Very perceptive - didn't feel like a bad mood, but it was Monday morning after a wonderful weekend with family...

            Slacker007 wrote:

            probably will not be the last time you vent like that

            You are probably right about that! ;)

            Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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            • R Ravi Bhavnani

              You're a good man, Mark.  :thumbsup: /ravi

              My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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              Mark Miller
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              Thanks, Ravi!

              Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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              • R realJSOP

                Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                Mark Miller
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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

                Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                  TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  Mark Miller
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                  :laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup:

                  Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                  • M Mark Miller

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                    Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

                    Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                    Slacker007
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                    John has been using that line sporadically here at the site for many, many years now.

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                    • S Slacker007

                      John has been using that line sporadically here at the site for many, many years now.

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                      Rage
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                      John Wayne was a Cpian ??

                      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                      • R Rage

                        John Wayne was a Cpian ??

                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                        Slacker007
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                        Um, err, John Simmons IS John Wayne! I thought everyone knew that. :)

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                        • M Mark Miller

                          On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                          Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                          Rage
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                          Mark Miller wrote:

                          in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for

                          SO you behaved like 99.99999999% of the people already behaved once on the internet ? You do not need to apologize for being human.

                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                          • M Mark Miller

                            On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                            Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                            kmoorevs
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                            It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                              Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:

                              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                              Richard Deeming
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                              Sander Rossel wrote:

                              VB.NET was my first programming language

                              Great, now I really feel old! :laugh: This[^] is where I started.


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                              • K kmoorevs

                                It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                Mark Miller
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                                kmoorevs wrote:

                                Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                                Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)

                                Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

                                  Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

                                  Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  Actually, John Wayne said it in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    Um, err, John Simmons IS John Wayne! I thought everyone knew that. :)

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                                    realJSOP
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                                    I'm not John Wayne, but I kicked his ass a couple of times. Chuck Norris, too...

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    • M Mark Miller

                                      kmoorevs wrote:

                                      Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

                                      Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)

                                      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                      realJSOP
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                                      But most of the truly horrendous coding honestly happens in Hindi Visual Basic...

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        I'm not John Wayne, but I kicked his ass a couple of times. Chuck Norris, too...

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                                          TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\

                                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                          Forogar wrote:

                                          TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS....

                                          Maunder is a spaces bloke, so just watch out if your account starts acting funny.

                                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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