I lost my temper and I apologize
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On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
kmoorevs wrote:
Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)
Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.
Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
Actually, John Wayne said it in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Um, err, John Simmons IS John Wayne! I thought everyone knew that. :)
I'm not John Wayne, but I kicked his ass a couple of times. Chuck Norris, too...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
kmoorevs wrote:
Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)
Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
But most of the truly horrendous coding honestly happens in Hindi Visual Basic...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I'm not John Wayne, but I kicked his ass a couple of times. Chuck Norris, too...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013:laugh: :thumbsup:
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TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Forogar wrote:
TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS....
Maunder is a spaces bloke, so just watch out if your account starts acting funny.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
Ah you were caught feeding the troll as well. Most of us can't resist doing that :laugh:
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
It looks like a genuine apology and I give you full credit. Contrition is rarely witnessed in this or other forums and your example is refreshing.
Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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You are not supposed to mention that name. It some how summons the dark forces! While those old flame wars could be amusing, they did get long in the tooth.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
Sander Rossel wrote:
VB.NET was my first programming language
I though one must come to age to get a CP membership...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Is this the typical VB programmer? [^] :-D :laugh: :-D :laugh:
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
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I worked with VB.NET before I worked with C# and I kind of think that it does deserve a fair portion of the hate that it gets. On the rare occasions that I have to revisit it, I find it excruciating. There's something about "IIF" (eeeeeefffff?) in particular that makes me want to die. And in any case, any language that is littered with the word "Dim" is fundamentally self descriptive. Sander's charitable attitude towards VB is obviously rooted in nostalgia and can be forgiven but it boils down to a simple case of C# == good, VB = rank - there's no need for the jury to retire on this one. And yes, it would be nice if people didn't get so damned opinionated about languages! :)
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
PeejayAdams wrote:
There's something about "IIF" (eeeeeefffff?) in particular that makes me want to die.
I never used those VB things. The Microsoft.VisualBasic namespace is off limits and Option Strict is on at project level. So I guess you're right about VB. Just make sure it's as much like C# as possible and you'll be fine :laugh:
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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Richard Deeming wrote:
Great, now I really feel old! :laugh:
Maybe it's more than a feeling ;)
Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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:D hehe Tox was the "general in command" in the annihilation mission to save CP from the Evil forces of Osmosian.
Full Reset
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Thanks, now I have to clean my keyboard as I was munching on trail mix when I saw this. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
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Ah you were caught feeding the troll as well. Most of us can't resist doing that :laugh:
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Most of us can't resist doing that :laugh:
Resistance is futile! :) :) :)
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
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It looks like a genuine apology and I give you full credit. Contrition is rarely witnessed in this or other forums and your example is refreshing.
Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
Thank you.
Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org
