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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:

    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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    Sander Rossel wrote:

    VB.NET was my first programming language

    Great, now I really feel old! :laugh: This[^] is where I started.


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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    • K kmoorevs

      It didn't seem that bad to me...I've seen (and on occasion said) worse here. I saw 'TIOBE' in that post and lost interest immediately. That index has already been discussed here (by that same member) and the general consensus then is that it is rubbish. It really shouldn't have been brought up again, unless the goal was to get rep points. It does piss me off to see members get evangelical about their programming language of Choice dismissing anything else as inferior. Programming languages are tools to get a job done...between VB as C#, it all boils down to MSIL anyway. I use both but actually prefer to avoid the semi-colons and braces. IMHO, that's a better argument than the fact that a language must be garbage because it still contains a construct (on error resume next) that good programmers know to avoid. Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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      Mark Miller
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      kmoorevs wrote:

      Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

      Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)

      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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      • M Mark Miller

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.

        Wasn't that originally attributed to John Wayne? I'm reminded of an old "Home Improvement" episode where Tim is explaining to the guys how he and Jill have such a good marriage. He said every morning he wakes up, looks at Jill and says "Honey, I'm sorry." One of the guys asks "Why? What for?" Tim gives a few reasons, including "For having an adams apple, just for being a man." I tried that on my wife and she just laughed. :)

        Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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        realJSOP
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        Actually, John Wayne said it in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        • S Slacker007

          Um, err, John Simmons IS John Wayne! I thought everyone knew that. :)

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          I'm not John Wayne, but I kicked his ass a couple of times. Chuck Norris, too...

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          • M Mark Miller

            kmoorevs wrote:

            Really, you can create crappy code in any language. :)

            Completely agree. I've seen good and bad coding in many languages. :)

            Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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            realJSOP
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            But most of the truly horrendous coding honestly happens in Hindi Visual Basic...

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            • R realJSOP

              I'm not John Wayne, but I kicked his ass a couple of times. Chuck Norris, too...

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              :laugh: :thumbsup:

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              • F Forogar

                TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS.... Oh, sorry. Got carried away for a moment there. :-\

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                Forogar wrote:

                TABS, TABS, TABS, TABS....

                Maunder is a spaces bloke, so just watch out if your account starts acting funny.

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                • M Mark Miller

                  On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                  Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  Ah you were caught feeding the troll as well. Most of us can't resist doing that :laugh:

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  • M Mark Miller

                    On Monday morning, while reading this[^] discussion I snapped, and responded to a code sample in the discussion in a manner that was blatantly mean and uncalled for, and for that, I apologize to the community as a whole and member georani[^] in particular. I greatly enjoy CodeProject, and my post did not uphold the standards of this community. Again, my apologies.

                    Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                    Lost User
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                    It looks like a genuine apology and I give you full credit. Contrition is rarely witnessed in this or other forums and your example is refreshing.

                    Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                    • S S Douglas

                      You are not supposed to mention that name. It some how summons the dark forces! While those old flame wars could be amusing, they did get long in the tooth.


                      Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                      Eytukan
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                      Rofl! Glad you remember.

                      Full Reset

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                      • C CPallini

                        Oh the Osmosians, we Klingons destroyed them a while ago. :-D

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                        :D hehe Tox was the "general in command" in the annihilation mission to save CP from the Evil forces of Osmosian.

                        Full Reset

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Now act like you mean it. Denounce all false programming languages and devote yourself to the one and only VB (which is old VB, not the new VB.NET)! VB.NET was my first programming language and I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets, but that georani guy even ticks me off :laugh:

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                          Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          VB.NET was my first programming language

                          I though one must come to age to get a CP membership...

                          "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018

                          "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                          • M Mark Miller

                            Is this the typical VB programmer? [^] :-D :laugh: :-D :laugh:

                            Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                            A VB program in the making.[^]

                            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                            • P PeejayAdams

                              I worked with VB.NET before I worked with C# and I kind of think that it does deserve a fair portion of the hate that it gets. On the rare occasions that I have to revisit it, I find it excruciating. There's something about "IIF" (eeeeeefffff?) in particular that makes me want to die. And in any case, any language that is littered with the word "Dim" is fundamentally self descriptive. Sander's charitable attitude towards VB is obviously rooted in nostalgia and can be forgiven but it boils down to a simple case of C# == good, VB = rank - there's no need for the jury to retire on this one. And yes, it would be nice if people didn't get so damned opinionated about languages! :)

                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                              PeejayAdams wrote:

                              There's something about "IIF" (eeeeeefffff?) in particular that makes me want to die.

                              I never used those VB things. The Microsoft.VisualBasic namespace is off limits and Option Strict is on at project level. So I guess you're right about VB. Just make sure it's as much like C# as possible and you'll be fine :laugh:

                              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                VB.NET was my first programming language

                                Great, now I really feel old! :laugh: This[^] is where I started.


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                Richard Deeming wrote:

                                Great, now I really feel old! :laugh:

                                Maybe it's more than a feeling ;)

                                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                • E Eytukan

                                  :D hehe Tox was the "general in command" in the annihilation mission to save CP from the Evil forces of Osmosian.

                                  Full Reset

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                                  The gold old days. :-D

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                                  • M Mark Miller

                                    Thanks, now I have to clean my keyboard as I was munching on trail mix when I saw this. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                    Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                    Are you one of those "read out loud" people then?

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                                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                                      Ah you were caught feeding the troll as well. Most of us can't resist doing that :laugh:

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                                      Most of us can't resist doing that :laugh:

                                      Resistance is futile! :) :) :)

                                      Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        It looks like a genuine apology and I give you full credit. Contrition is rarely witnessed in this or other forums and your example is refreshing.

                                        Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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                                        Mark Miller
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                                        Thank you.

                                        Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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                                        • M musefan

                                          Are you one of those "read out loud" people then?

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                                          Mark Miller
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                                          musefan wrote:

                                          Are you one of those "read out loud" people then?

                                          Only when reading to my kids! I was caught by an episode of explosive laughter, while eating... Now my cube mates know I'm nuts. :laugh: :-D

                                          Sincerely, -Mark mamiller@rhsnet.org

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