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  • Z ZurdoDev

    CPallini wrote:

    Nope, that's reserved to "Fahrenheit 451" buyers.

    Dang you. Another one I have not read, but probably should. Or should I?

    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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    Johnny J
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    Definitely. It's a good one! :thumbsup:

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    • Z ZurdoDev

      I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      Marc Clifton
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      In 1984 you would had to go to a book store to buy it. > The novel is set in the year 1984 when most of the world population have become victims of perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance and propaganda. And Orwell wrote published it in 1949. :sigh:

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      • Z ZurdoDev

        I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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        GuyThiebaut
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        I read it back in and around 1988. Be prepared for a dark read, there is absolutely nothing cheerful or positive in the story - that said it is a rather fascinating read and Orwell does write well.

        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

        ― Christopher Hitchens

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        • G GuyThiebaut

          I read it back in and around 1988. Be prepared for a dark read, there is absolutely nothing cheerful or positive in the story - that said it is a rather fascinating read and Orwell does write well.

          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

          ― Christopher Hitchens

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          OriginalGriff
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          GuyThiebaut wrote:

          Orwell does write well

          He did, but "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" was rather tedious.

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            CPallini wrote:

            Nope, that's reserved to "Fahrenheit 451" buyers.

            Dang you. Another one I have not read, but probably should. Or should I?

            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            CPallini
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            Possibly. Don't keep your eyes wide shut on that. :-D

            In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              Mike Hankey
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              They've automagically updated your order and are sending you the 2nd edition 2084!

              I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!

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              • M Marc Clifton

                In 1984 you would had to go to a book store to buy it. > The novel is set in the year 1984 when most of the world population have become victims of perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance and propaganda. And Orwell wrote published it in 1949. :sigh:

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                F ES Sitecore
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                He wrote it in 48 which is where the 84 comes come; 48 switched. It was published in 49 though. *waits for Mark_Wallace to come along telling me I'm wrong without providing any evidence then accusing me of not even having read the book*

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  GuyThiebaut wrote:

                  Orwell does write well

                  He did, but "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" was rather tedious.

                  Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  He only wrote that for the money, he regrets that it was published. He feels that way about a few of his books I believe.

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                    He wrote it in 48 which is where the 84 comes come; 48 switched. It was published in 49 though. *waits for Mark_Wallace to come along telling me I'm wrong without providing any evidence then accusing me of not even having read the book*

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                    F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                    He wrote it in 48 which is where the 84 comes come; 48 switched. It was published in 49 though.

                    Oops, yes, I read "published in 49" but didn't convey that in the post. Fixed. And I was wondering if 84 was related to 48. Thanks!

                    Latest Article - A Concise Overview of Threads Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      MarkTJohnson
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                      Yes you need to read it, if only to be able to say you are well read. I do also recommend Fahrenheit 451. I liked Brave New World better than 1984 and no one ever seems to mention it.

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                        He only wrote that for the money, he regrets that it was published. He feels that way about a few of his books I believe.

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        I remember reading "Animal Farm", and "1984", then borrowing a couple more of his from the library as he was clearly a good writer. Then I got as far as "Aspiradista" and never read another thing by him. :laugh:

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          CPallini wrote:

                          Nope, that's reserved to "Fahrenheit 451" buyers.

                          Dang you. Another one I have not read, but probably should. Or should I?

                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          James McCullough
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                          You read Brave New World by Huxley? That one's another one that deserves a read in these times. My personal "best of" order for dystopian novels is: 1984 (George Orwell) Brave New World (Aldous Huxley) Farenheit 451 (Ray Bradbury) Animal Farm (George Orwell) Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)*** Anthem (Ayn Rand) *** Atlas Shrugged is an outlier on this list; it's not a straight-up dystopian future story, and a lot of people don't like the politics behind Atlas Shrugged, but it's worth a read, for sure. It's also kind of a bear at over 1,000 pages.

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                          • Z ZurdoDev

                            I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

                            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            W Balboos GHB
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                            When you finally get it. And when you finally read it. You'll have learned about "DoubleThink". It's so alive and well in the last couple of years it's astounding . . . and maddening.

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                              I remember reading "Animal Farm", and "1984", then borrowing a couple more of his from the library as he was clearly a good writer. Then I got as far as "Aspiradista" and never read another thing by him. :laugh:

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                              I've read every fiction he has done (including some non-fiction), and 1984 is his only proper "great" work. He does write very well and his books often have flashes of genius, I don't think he ever met his full potential.

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                              • Z ZurdoDev

                                I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

                                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                If your house number is 101, you're probably on a security watch-list.

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                • J James McCullough

                                  You read Brave New World by Huxley? That one's another one that deserves a read in these times. My personal "best of" order for dystopian novels is: 1984 (George Orwell) Brave New World (Aldous Huxley) Farenheit 451 (Ray Bradbury) Animal Farm (George Orwell) Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)*** Anthem (Ayn Rand) *** Atlas Shrugged is an outlier on this list; it's not a straight-up dystopian future story, and a lot of people don't like the politics behind Atlas Shrugged, but it's worth a read, for sure. It's also kind of a bear at over 1,000 pages.

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                                  James McCullough wrote:

                                  Animal Farm (George Orwell)

                                  Somehow I keep getting that one confused with Animal House (the John Belushi movie). Not quite as heavy a topic.

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                                    James McCullough wrote:

                                    Animal Farm (George Orwell)

                                    Somehow I keep getting that one confused with Animal House (the John Belushi movie). Not quite as heavy a topic.

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                                    James McCullough
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                                    LOL Should I add it to the list?

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                                    • M Mark_Wallace

                                      If your house number is 101, you're probably on a security watch-list.

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                                      den2k88
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                                      Speaking of books... I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :D has it been published? I'd like to read the finished product.

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                                      • Z ZurdoDev

                                        I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

                                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        Lots of what is in the book is happening right now : Driving of people's thinking (today through Google, Amazon and co being your reference search engine and driving your life's choices), watching and recording people (OK Google, Alexa, ... People are even buying telescreens - in the book they were forced into everybody's place), the fake news, the public shaming on social networks, new language, etc... Interesting, but creepy.

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                                        • D den2k88

                                          Speaking of books... I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :D has it been published? I'd like to read the finished product.

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          den2k88 wrote:

                                          I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :-D has it been published?

                                          It's at the publisher's now, so I'm working on a sequel, rather than just twiddle my thumbs.

                                          den2k88 wrote:

                                          I'd like to read the finished product.

                                          The copy in the location you first downloaded it from has been replaced by the whole thing (which I think is somewhere between 30 & 40k words longer).

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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