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  • Z ZurdoDev

    I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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    MarkTJohnson
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    Yes you need to read it, if only to be able to say you are well read. I do also recommend Fahrenheit 451. I liked Brave New World better than 1984 and no one ever seems to mention it.

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    • Z ZurdoDev

      CPallini wrote:

      Nope, that's reserved to "Fahrenheit 451" buyers.

      Dang you. Another one I have not read, but probably should. Or should I?

      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      James McCullough
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      You read Brave New World by Huxley? That one's another one that deserves a read in these times. My personal "best of" order for dystopian novels is: 1984 (George Orwell) Brave New World (Aldous Huxley) Farenheit 451 (Ray Bradbury) Animal Farm (George Orwell) Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)*** Anthem (Ayn Rand) *** Atlas Shrugged is an outlier on this list; it's not a straight-up dystopian future story, and a lot of people don't like the politics behind Atlas Shrugged, but it's worth a read, for sure. It's also kind of a bear at over 1,000 pages.

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        He only wrote that for the money, he regrets that it was published. He feels that way about a few of his books I believe.

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        OriginalGriff
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        I remember reading "Animal Farm", and "1984", then borrowing a couple more of his from the library as he was clearly a good writer. Then I got as far as "Aspiradista" and never read another thing by him. :laugh:

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          W Balboos GHB
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          When you finally get it. And when you finally read it. You'll have learned about "DoubleThink". It's so alive and well in the last couple of years it's astounding . . . and maddening.

          Ravings en masse^

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I remember reading "Animal Farm", and "1984", then borrowing a couple more of his from the library as he was clearly a good writer. Then I got as far as "Aspiradista" and never read another thing by him. :laugh:

            Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            I've read every fiction he has done (including some non-fiction), and 1984 is his only proper "great" work. He does write very well and his books often have flashes of genius, I don't think he ever met his full potential.

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            • Z ZurdoDev

              I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              Mark_Wallace
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              If your house number is 101, you're probably on a security watch-list.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • J James McCullough

                You read Brave New World by Huxley? That one's another one that deserves a read in these times. My personal "best of" order for dystopian novels is: 1984 (George Orwell) Brave New World (Aldous Huxley) Farenheit 451 (Ray Bradbury) Animal Farm (George Orwell) Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)*** Anthem (Ayn Rand) *** Atlas Shrugged is an outlier on this list; it's not a straight-up dystopian future story, and a lot of people don't like the politics behind Atlas Shrugged, but it's worth a read, for sure. It's also kind of a bear at over 1,000 pages.

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                dandy72
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                James McCullough wrote:

                Animal Farm (George Orwell)

                Somehow I keep getting that one confused with Animal House (the John Belushi movie). Not quite as heavy a topic.

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                  James McCullough wrote:

                  Animal Farm (George Orwell)

                  Somehow I keep getting that one confused with Animal House (the John Belushi movie). Not quite as heavy a topic.

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                  James McCullough
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                  LOL Should I add it to the list?

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    If your house number is 101, you're probably on a security watch-list.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    den2k88
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                    Speaking of books... I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :D has it been published? I'd like to read the finished product.

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

                      Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      Rage
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                      Lots of what is in the book is happening right now : Driving of people's thinking (today through Google, Amazon and co being your reference search engine and driving your life's choices), watching and recording people (OK Google, Alexa, ... People are even buying telescreens - in the book they were forced into everybody's place), the fake news, the public shaming on social networks, new language, etc... Interesting, but creepy.

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                        Speaking of books... I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :D has it been published? I'd like to read the finished product.

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        den2k88 wrote:

                        I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :-D has it been published?

                        It's at the publisher's now, so I'm working on a sequel, rather than just twiddle my thumbs.

                        den2k88 wrote:

                        I'd like to read the finished product.

                        The copy in the location you first downloaded it from has been replaced by the whole thing (which I think is somewhere between 30 & 40k words longer).

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          If your house number is 101, you're probably on a security watch-list.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Maximilien
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                          I AM NOT A NUMBER ... oopppss wrong dystopia.

                          I'd rather be phishing!

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                          • M MarkTJohnson

                            Yes you need to read it, if only to be able to say you are well read. I do also recommend Fahrenheit 451. I liked Brave New World better than 1984 and no one ever seems to mention it.

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            MarkTJohnson wrote:

                            Brave New World b

                            Ya, I think someone above did, but I don't recall hearing it either.

                            MarkTJohnson wrote:

                            Fahrenheit 451.

                            Wasn't there a movie? I guess I'll have to check out the book.

                            Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              When you finally get it. And when you finally read it. You'll have learned about "DoubleThink". It's so alive and well in the last couple of years it's astounding . . . and maddening.

                              Ravings en masse^

                              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Ya, I'm not sure what I got myself into.

                              Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Lots of what is in the book is happening right now : Driving of people's thinking (today through Google, Amazon and co being your reference search engine and driving your life's choices), watching and recording people (OK Google, Alexa, ... People are even buying telescreens - in the book they were forced into everybody's place), the fake news, the public shaming on social networks, new language, etc... Interesting, but creepy.

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                Rage wrote:

                                Interesting, but creepy.

                                Looking forward to it.

                                Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                • Z ZurdoDev

                                  I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

                                  Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  DRHuff
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                                  Its a how-to guide for Democrats and Silicon Valley. Do you have ties to either group? :-D

                                  Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)

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                                  • Z ZurdoDev

                                    MarkTJohnson wrote:

                                    Brave New World b

                                    Ya, I think someone above did, but I don't recall hearing it either.

                                    MarkTJohnson wrote:

                                    Fahrenheit 451.

                                    Wasn't there a movie? I guess I'll have to check out the book.

                                    Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                    MarkTJohnson
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                                    Okay, watching the movie about Fahrenheit 451 kinda puts you in the world of Fahrenheit 451. TV in the book covers entire walls. If you do watch one of the movies, watch the original one made in 1966. The new one is just, well, wrong.

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      GuyThiebaut wrote:

                                      Orwell does write well

                                      He did, but "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" was rather tedious.

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                                      GuyThiebaut
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                                      I don't think I have read that, although I may have - I remember reading Down and out in Paris and London and Animal farm both of which, like 1984, were well written.

                                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                      ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                      • Z ZurdoDev

                                        I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?

                                        Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                        enhzflep
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                                        It's out of copyright here in Aus. I can't help but giggle that since I didn't buy it with cash in a store, Big Brother now knows I have it.

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          MarkTJohnson wrote:

                                          Brave New World b

                                          Ya, I think someone above did, but I don't recall hearing it either.

                                          MarkTJohnson wrote:

                                          Fahrenheit 451.

                                          Wasn't there a movie? I guess I'll have to check out the book.

                                          Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          ZurdoDev wrote:

                                          Wasn't there a movie?

                                          There are two. I haven't watched the new one. A couple of years ago my son (almost 22 and has studied movie making and the likes) and I found and tried to watch the old one (can't remember when it was made and am at work so can't have a look at it), I couldn't finish it, I have had 3 goes and am probably a bit over half way through. It sucked and alcohol didn't make it watchable either.

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