1984
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
Orwell does write well
He did, but "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" was rather tedious.
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He wrote it in 48 which is where the 84 comes come; 48 switched. It was published in 49 though. *waits for Mark_Wallace to come along telling me I'm wrong without providing any evidence then accusing me of not even having read the book*
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
He wrote it in 48 which is where the 84 comes come; 48 switched. It was published in 49 though.
Oops, yes, I read "published in 49" but didn't convey that in the post. Fixed. And I was wondering if 84 was related to 48. Thanks!
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I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?
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Yes you need to read it, if only to be able to say you are well read. I do also recommend Fahrenheit 451. I liked Brave New World better than 1984 and no one ever seems to mention it.
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CPallini wrote:
Nope, that's reserved to "Fahrenheit 451" buyers.
Dang you. Another one I have not read, but probably should. Or should I?
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You read Brave New World by Huxley? That one's another one that deserves a read in these times. My personal "best of" order for dystopian novels is: 1984 (George Orwell) Brave New World (Aldous Huxley) Farenheit 451 (Ray Bradbury) Animal Farm (George Orwell) Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)*** Anthem (Ayn Rand) *** Atlas Shrugged is an outlier on this list; it's not a straight-up dystopian future story, and a lot of people don't like the politics behind Atlas Shrugged, but it's worth a read, for sure. It's also kind of a bear at over 1,000 pages.
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He only wrote that for the money, he regrets that it was published. He feels that way about a few of his books I believe.
I remember reading "Animal Farm", and "1984", then borrowing a couple more of his from the library as he was clearly a good writer. Then I got as far as "Aspiradista" and never read another thing by him. :laugh:
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I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
When you finally get it. And when you finally read it. You'll have learned about "DoubleThink". It's so alive and well in the last couple of years it's astounding . . . and maddening.
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I remember reading "Animal Farm", and "1984", then borrowing a couple more of his from the library as he was clearly a good writer. Then I got as far as "Aspiradista" and never read another thing by him. :laugh:
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I've read every fiction he has done (including some non-fiction), and 1984 is his only proper "great" work. He does write very well and his books often have flashes of genius, I don't think he ever met his full potential.
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I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
If your house number is 101, you're probably on a security watch-list.
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You read Brave New World by Huxley? That one's another one that deserves a read in these times. My personal "best of" order for dystopian novels is: 1984 (George Orwell) Brave New World (Aldous Huxley) Farenheit 451 (Ray Bradbury) Animal Farm (George Orwell) Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)*** Anthem (Ayn Rand) *** Atlas Shrugged is an outlier on this list; it's not a straight-up dystopian future story, and a lot of people don't like the politics behind Atlas Shrugged, but it's worth a read, for sure. It's also kind of a bear at over 1,000 pages.
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James McCullough wrote:
Animal Farm (George Orwell)
Somehow I keep getting that one confused with Animal House (the John Belushi movie). Not quite as heavy a topic.
LOL Should I add it to the list?
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If your house number is 101, you're probably on a security watch-list.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Speaking of books... I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :D has it been published? I'd like to read the finished product.
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I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
Lots of what is in the book is happening right now : Driving of people's thinking (today through Google, Amazon and co being your reference search engine and driving your life's choices), watching and recording people (OK Google, Alexa, ... People are even buying telescreens - in the book they were forced into everybody's place), the fake news, the public shaming on social networks, new language, etc... Interesting, but creepy.
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Speaking of books... I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :D has it been published? I'd like to read the finished product.
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den2k88 wrote:
I seem to recall having read a draft of a book written by you yourself :-D has it been published?
It's at the publisher's now, so I'm working on a sequel, rather than just twiddle my thumbs.
den2k88 wrote:
I'd like to read the finished product.
The copy in the location you first downloaded it from has been replaced by the whole thing (which I think is somewhere between 30 & 40k words longer).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If your house number is 101, you're probably on a security watch-list.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I AM NOT A NUMBER ... oopppss wrong dystopia.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Yes you need to read it, if only to be able to say you are well read. I do also recommend Fahrenheit 451. I liked Brave New World better than 1984 and no one ever seems to mention it.
MarkTJohnson wrote:
Brave New World b
Ya, I think someone above did, but I don't recall hearing it either.
MarkTJohnson wrote:
Fahrenheit 451.
Wasn't there a movie? I guess I'll have to check out the book.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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When you finally get it. And when you finally read it. You'll have learned about "DoubleThink". It's so alive and well in the last couple of years it's astounding . . . and maddening.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Lots of what is in the book is happening right now : Driving of people's thinking (today through Google, Amazon and co being your reference search engine and driving your life's choices), watching and recording people (OK Google, Alexa, ... People are even buying telescreens - in the book they were forced into everybody's place), the fake news, the public shaming on social networks, new language, etc... Interesting, but creepy.
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I've never read 1984 but I've seen it mentioned and referred to many times here. I think I get the idea of what the book is about. So, I decided to buy it. US Postal tracking number says they tried to deliver it last Tuesday but at my request they are holding it. I did not request that. I contacted support via their web form Tuesday night and have not heard back from them. Coincidence? Or do they not want me to read it?
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
Its a how-to guide for Democrats and Silicon Valley. Do you have ties to either group? :-D
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MarkTJohnson wrote:
Brave New World b
Ya, I think someone above did, but I don't recall hearing it either.
MarkTJohnson wrote:
Fahrenheit 451.
Wasn't there a movie? I guess I'll have to check out the book.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
Okay, watching the movie about Fahrenheit 451 kinda puts you in the world of Fahrenheit 451. TV in the book covers entire walls. If you do watch one of the movies, watch the original one made in 1966. The new one is just, well, wrong.
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
Orwell does write well
He did, but "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" was rather tedious.
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I don't think I have read that, although I may have - I remember reading Down and out in Paris and London and Animal farm both of which, like 1984, were well written.
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