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  • C Christian Graus

    AGW is not the only thing harming the planet, but are you saying David Attenborough is a liar? AGW so far has clearly not killed us. It has killed a lot of other animals, including polar bears and walrus. It's not over yet

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    Yes, Attenborough is a liar. He has consistently lied to promote CAGW, distorting the facts in the most obvious way. Walrus' have fallen off cliffs before, it has been attested to for decades. Sir David Attenborough's Our Planet on Netflix: Walrus scene a lie? | Metro News[^] Polar bear numbers are increasing. (Dr Susan Crawford)

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    It has killed a lot of other animals

    Name species wiped out by global warming.

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      Yes, Attenborough is a liar. He has consistently lied to promote CAGW, distorting the facts in the most obvious way. Walrus' have fallen off cliffs before, it has been attested to for decades. Sir David Attenborough's Our Planet on Netflix: Walrus scene a lie? | Metro News[^] Polar bear numbers are increasing. (Dr Susan Crawford)

      Christian Graus wrote:

      It has killed a lot of other animals

      Name species wiped out by global warming.

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      Christian Graus
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      Well, he's always seemed corrupt to me. He clearly has a lot to gain here...

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        Well, he's always seemed corrupt to me. He clearly has a lot to gain here...

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        He has an agenda, which he is using climate change to push, just like all the rest.

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          He has an agenda, which he is using climate change to push, just like all the rest.

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          Christian Graus
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          He's clearly got a lot of life left to live and a lot of money to make from the global warming scam. What else could be true?

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            He's clearly got a lot of life left to live and a lot of money to make from the global warming scam. What else could be true?

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            Oh, you didnt know he has an agenda? OK, here you go: david attenborough population control - Google Search[^]

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              Oh, you didnt know he has an agenda? OK, here you go: david attenborough population control - Google Search[^]

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              Christian Graus
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              Oh God. The far right 'population control' bullshit. Spare me

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              • C Christian Graus

                Oh God. The far right 'population control' bullshit. Spare me

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                Sorry, you mean far right people want population control, and therefore Attenborough is far right? I would say that, I would say he is typical of Erlich and the rest of the late 20th century doom monger, anti human, disaster scenarios peddlars who have turned out, again and again, to be completely wrong. He is a liar, anyway, it is clear from what he doesnt say, while promoting CAGW. I already gave you links, and a cite, about polar bears and walrusses, and then asked you for proof any species has gone extinct through CAGW, you have ignored all this.

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                  According to Hansen and his prodigy, Schmidt, at GISS, that two man research center above a restaurant somewhere in New York, it is now half a degree C warmer today than 1998. :laugh: :laugh: https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/image-12.png[^] This is after all their adjustments, and fiddles of course. Satellite measurements of the lower troposphere show the truth: Wood for Trees: Interactive Graphs[^] GISS really are heading off into fantasy land with their temperature product. Full story here: Cooling Down the Hysteria About Global Warming | Watts Up With That?[^]

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                  A_Griffin
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                  Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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                  • A A_Griffin

                    Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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                    Fact - Most of the "science" behind global warming claims have been debunked.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    • A A_Griffin

                      Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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                      I’m not religious

                      So that means there is a difference between the combinations AGW, CAGW - Religous, Not Religous:confused: :omg:

                      It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                      • A A_Griffin

                        Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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                        Lost User
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                        You vastly overestimate the power of the soapbox I'm afraid :) It's just a guy with a slight messiah complex, that's all.

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                          Fact - Most of the "science" behind global warming claims have been debunked.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Yes, I have an interesting book on how the coal lobby has spent a fortune on 'debunking' it. The group that works hardest to do that in Australia is funded by Gina Rinehart, who is a squillionaire from coal mining. Weird, how that works. But exactly the same as the efforts of the tobacco industry to discredit claims smoking causes cancer, which worked for 30 years.

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                            Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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                            A_Griffin wrote:

                            You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways

                            OUr ways cause so little warming we dont need to stop. What I find interesting is the violent and ascerbic way you respond to the fact that CO2 on its own, without Water Vapour amplification, is safe. Do you WANT it to be dangerous? Arent you grateful that CO2 isnt? What kind of weird agenda do YOU have where you so desperately need CO2 to be dangerous?

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                              Yes, I have an interesting book on how the coal lobby has spent a fortune on 'debunking' it. The group that works hardest to do that in Australia is funded by Gina Rinehart, who is a squillionaire from coal mining. Weird, how that works. But exactly the same as the efforts of the tobacco industry to discredit claims smoking causes cancer, which worked for 30 years.

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                              Munchies_Matt
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                              Oh what utter bullshit! It is plain old mother earth that has exposed the lies by NOT increasing water vapour and NOT increasing temperatures in line with the models that are positid ON an increase in water vapour. Your ignorance of the science of all this is staggering. Please do read up on this, it is really very simple. I repeat, water vapour is not increasing, therefore the slight warming from CO2 is entirely beneficial.

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                                A_Griffin wrote:

                                You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways

                                OUr ways cause so little warming we dont need to stop. What I find interesting is the violent and ascerbic way you respond to the fact that CO2 on its own, without Water Vapour amplification, is safe. Do you WANT it to be dangerous? Arent you grateful that CO2 isnt? What kind of weird agenda do YOU have where you so desperately need CO2 to be dangerous?

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                                Christian Graus
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                                I feel like female company might help you with your stress levels. I got an offer for 10 Euro in Hamburg. I am sure it's within your reach

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  I feel like female company might help you with your stress levels. I got an offer for 10 Euro in Hamburg. I am sure it's within your reach

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                                  Munchies_Matt
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                                  You really are quite pathetic you know.

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                                    You really are quite pathetic you know.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Every far right piece of trash is astonished at the moment I start making fun of them and not taking them seriously. Why is it that I can predict all the people you hate, on the basis you hate science and freedom of religion? Might you be a cartoon?

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      Every far right piece of trash is astonished at the moment I start making fun of them and not taking them seriously. Why is it that I can predict all the people you hate, on the basis you hate science and freedom of religion? Might you be a cartoon?

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                                      Munchies_Matt
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                                      And there was me thinking prejudice had gone. So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)? And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified? And then a snide and pathetic joke about sexuality with 'you need a woman'. Can you be any more ridiculous?

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                                        And there was me thinking prejudice had gone. So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)? And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified? And then a snide and pathetic joke about sexuality with 'you need a woman'. Can you be any more ridiculous?

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)?

                                        Honestly, this is so stupid, if this was Facebook, I'd block you

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                                        And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified?

                                        Yes. Because you think a non random site created to protect the interests of coal and oil is better than the consensus of scientists

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                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)?

                                          Honestly, this is so stupid, if this was Facebook, I'd block you

                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified?

                                          Yes. Because you think a non random site created to protect the interests of coal and oil is better than the consensus of scientists

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          Honestly, this is so stupid, if this was Facebook, I'd block you

                                          You can't block, but you still can ignore voluntarily. Two don't argue, if one doesn't want to.

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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