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  • C Christian Graus

    He's clearly got a lot of life left to live and a lot of money to make from the global warming scam. What else could be true?

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    Munchies_Matt
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    Oh, you didnt know he has an agenda? OK, here you go: david attenborough population control - Google Search[^]

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      Oh, you didnt know he has an agenda? OK, here you go: david attenborough population control - Google Search[^]

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      Christian Graus
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      Oh God. The far right 'population control' bullshit. Spare me

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      • C Christian Graus

        Oh God. The far right 'population control' bullshit. Spare me

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        Sorry, you mean far right people want population control, and therefore Attenborough is far right? I would say that, I would say he is typical of Erlich and the rest of the late 20th century doom monger, anti human, disaster scenarios peddlars who have turned out, again and again, to be completely wrong. He is a liar, anyway, it is clear from what he doesnt say, while promoting CAGW. I already gave you links, and a cite, about polar bears and walrusses, and then asked you for proof any species has gone extinct through CAGW, you have ignored all this.

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          According to Hansen and his prodigy, Schmidt, at GISS, that two man research center above a restaurant somewhere in New York, it is now half a degree C warmer today than 1998. :laugh: :laugh: https://4k4oijnpiu3l4c3h-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/image-12.png[^] This is after all their adjustments, and fiddles of course. Satellite measurements of the lower troposphere show the truth: Wood for Trees: Interactive Graphs[^] GISS really are heading off into fantasy land with their temperature product. Full story here: Cooling Down the Hysteria About Global Warming | Watts Up With That?[^]

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          Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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            Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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            realJSOP
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            Fact - Most of the "science" behind global warming claims have been debunked.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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              Lost User
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              I’m not religious

              So that means there is a difference between the combinations AGW, CAGW - Religous, Not Religous:confused: :omg:

              It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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              • A A_Griffin

                Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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                Lost User
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                You vastly overestimate the power of the soapbox I'm afraid :) It's just a guy with a slight messiah complex, that's all.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Fact - Most of the "science" behind global warming claims have been debunked.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Yes, I have an interesting book on how the coal lobby has spent a fortune on 'debunking' it. The group that works hardest to do that in Australia is funded by Gina Rinehart, who is a squillionaire from coal mining. Weird, how that works. But exactly the same as the efforts of the tobacco industry to discredit claims smoking causes cancer, which worked for 30 years.

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                  • A A_Griffin

                    Still spouting your crap, I see. I’m not religious, but there are few words better to describe you than “evil”. Why are you so obsessed with spreading your shit? You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways. It is the complacency of people like you that is going to lead directly to the deaths of millions of people. One day your children, if they’re still alive, will spit on your grave. I’m off again – I cannot bear to be on the same platform as you.

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                    A_Griffin wrote:

                    You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways

                    OUr ways cause so little warming we dont need to stop. What I find interesting is the violent and ascerbic way you respond to the fact that CO2 on its own, without Water Vapour amplification, is safe. Do you WANT it to be dangerous? Arent you grateful that CO2 isnt? What kind of weird agenda do YOU have where you so desperately need CO2 to be dangerous?

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Yes, I have an interesting book on how the coal lobby has spent a fortune on 'debunking' it. The group that works hardest to do that in Australia is funded by Gina Rinehart, who is a squillionaire from coal mining. Weird, how that works. But exactly the same as the efforts of the tobacco industry to discredit claims smoking causes cancer, which worked for 30 years.

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                      Munchies_Matt
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                      Oh what utter bullshit! It is plain old mother earth that has exposed the lies by NOT increasing water vapour and NOT increasing temperatures in line with the models that are positid ON an increase in water vapour. Your ignorance of the science of all this is staggering. Please do read up on this, it is really very simple. I repeat, water vapour is not increasing, therefore the slight warming from CO2 is entirely beneficial.

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                        A_Griffin wrote:

                        You acknowledge AGW but not CAGW – as though the warming will stop all by itself if we don’t change our ways

                        OUr ways cause so little warming we dont need to stop. What I find interesting is the violent and ascerbic way you respond to the fact that CO2 on its own, without Water Vapour amplification, is safe. Do you WANT it to be dangerous? Arent you grateful that CO2 isnt? What kind of weird agenda do YOU have where you so desperately need CO2 to be dangerous?

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                        Christian Graus
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                        I feel like female company might help you with your stress levels. I got an offer for 10 Euro in Hamburg. I am sure it's within your reach

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          I feel like female company might help you with your stress levels. I got an offer for 10 Euro in Hamburg. I am sure it's within your reach

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          You really are quite pathetic you know.

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                            You really are quite pathetic you know.

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                            Christian Graus
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                            Every far right piece of trash is astonished at the moment I start making fun of them and not taking them seriously. Why is it that I can predict all the people you hate, on the basis you hate science and freedom of religion? Might you be a cartoon?

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              Every far right piece of trash is astonished at the moment I start making fun of them and not taking them seriously. Why is it that I can predict all the people you hate, on the basis you hate science and freedom of religion? Might you be a cartoon?

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                              And there was me thinking prejudice had gone. So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)? And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified? And then a snide and pathetic joke about sexuality with 'you need a woman'. Can you be any more ridiculous?

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                And there was me thinking prejudice had gone. So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)? And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified? And then a snide and pathetic joke about sexuality with 'you need a woman'. Can you be any more ridiculous?

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)?

                                Honestly, this is so stupid, if this was Facebook, I'd block you

                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified?

                                Yes. Because you think a non random site created to protect the interests of coal and oil is better than the consensus of scientists

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                                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                  So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)?

                                  Honestly, this is so stupid, if this was Facebook, I'd block you

                                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                  And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified?

                                  Yes. Because you think a non random site created to protect the interests of coal and oil is better than the consensus of scientists

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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  Honestly, this is so stupid, if this was Facebook, I'd block you

                                  You can't block, but you still can ignore voluntarily. Two don't argue, if one doesn't want to.

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    So, I am now 'far right' because I act and think against a kind of fascism (Islam, totalitarian, authoritarian, imposed at the point of violence)?

                                    Honestly, this is so stupid, if this was Facebook, I'd block you

                                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                    And a 'science hater' because I point out that water vapour has not increased, therefore the mild warming from CO2 has not been amplified?

                                    Yes. Because you think a non random site created to protect the interests of coal and oil is better than the consensus of scientists

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    if this was Facebook, I'd block you

                                    Because when you cant handle the truth you have to hide it. Islam is fascism. Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2][3][4] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy [^] And you DONT think Islam is like that? Are you that stupid? Really? The scientific consensus says no more than: 1) It has warmed over the last century 2) Man has played a significant part (Doran Zimmerman poll of 10,000 scientists) It does not say that the warming is large, and that if large, will lead to chaotic, extreme weather, extinction of species, and the destruction of human society. HOwever 219 scientists DID sign the 2007 Bali letter urging governments to action on CO2 because it is dangerous. There is your consensus, 219. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Really Graus, you need to pull your libtard head out of your arse and smell some reality.

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      So all the scientists are wrong, because you said so? This is why humanity is doomed. Hubris and deliberate ignorance

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                                      Not too long ago, but well before breakfast, I posted the following on my web page thing:

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                                      Unfortunately, for the vast majority, people know what they know only if it's what they want to know. - January 29 2016, 8:10 AM

                                      (You instinctively knew that, no?)

                                      Ravings en masse^

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        Oh God. The far right 'population control' bullshit. Spare me

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                                        I must say I admire your determination in talking to a brick wall troll :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                                          I must say I admire your determination in talking to a brick wall troll :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          I'm not even reading his replies anymore....

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