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  • L Lost User

    Sorry, I've never been to a white supremacist rally. What year did this begin?

    The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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    Use your google skills

    Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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      When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.   They are destroying a supporting foundation of the greatness - and thus not only hate it but are its enemy. And, of course, those that want to buy an arsenal of weapons, hold up in some compound (in Idaho, perhaps?) and decide they don't have to live by the laws of the land - and got the weapons to defend the right to be separatists (how is that different, than, say, islamic seperatist anywhere else in the world?). Pick and choose amendments and rights for others? They hate this country. They want to make it into something else - and it's not into anything good - except of course for them.

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      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      W∴ Balboos wrote:

      When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.

      a) what does what religious people do have anything to do with non-liberals? b) what does pushing your religious views on others have to do with hating your country? edit: especially of the country was founded on the religion in question

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      those that want to buy an arsenal of weapons, hold up in some compound (in Idaho, perhaps?) and decide they don't have to live by the laws of the land

      Um, yeah, that's what a minority of these people believe for sure, but what does that have to do with hating your country? Why does insisting on having your (perceived) rights mean you hate your country? People who live in free countries and demand freedoms are taken away....that's who hates their country.

      W∴ Balboos wrote:

      They want to make it into something else

      Yeah, they want to make it great again ;)

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      • M Majerus

        Use your google skills

        Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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        No thanks. I was pretty sure you couldn't / wouldn't answer my questions. Thanks for playing!

        The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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          No thanks. I was pretty sure you couldn't / wouldn't answer my questions. Thanks for playing!

          The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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          you’re the one who thinks a specific date is important. I don’t.

          Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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            you’re the one who thinks a specific date is important. I don’t.

            Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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            I think it's relatively important because your hero, President Barack Obama, prominently flew the "Betsy Ross" flag at his inaugurations. :rolleyes: I like pointing out your endless hypocrisy.

            The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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              I think it's relatively important because your hero, President Barack Obama, prominently flew the "Betsy Ross" flag at his inaugurations. :rolleyes: I like pointing out your endless hypocrisy.

              The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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              Mike Mullikin wrote:

              I like pointing out your endless hypocrisy.

              LOL you really have no idea what the word means. Now if Obama was a white supremist and used that flag as a symbol of his white supremacy, you might have a point. He isn't and didn't. And you don't have a point.

              Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                Mike Mullikin wrote:

                I like pointing out your endless hypocrisy.

                LOL you really have no idea what the word means. Now if Obama was a white supremist and used that flag as a symbol of his white supremacy, you might have a point. He isn't and didn't. And you don't have a point.

                Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                Neither is Nike. The hypocrites are clowns like Kaepernick and yourself that want Nike to avoid it all the while saying nothing when Obama flew it.

                The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                  When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.

                  a) what does what religious people do have anything to do with non-liberals? b) what does pushing your religious views on others have to do with hating your country? edit: especially of the country was founded on the religion in question

                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                  those that want to buy an arsenal of weapons, hold up in some compound (in Idaho, perhaps?) and decide they don't have to live by the laws of the land

                  Um, yeah, that's what a minority of these people believe for sure, but what does that have to do with hating your country? Why does insisting on having your (perceived) rights mean you hate your country? People who live in free countries and demand freedoms are taken away....that's who hates their country.

                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                  They want to make it into something else

                  Yeah, they want to make it great again ;)

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                  Right-wing religious asswipes have, for example, put obstacles and are trying remove a woman's right to chose to have a baby or not (even when their papa raped them). Pushing your religious views on others who don't share them, especially trying to legislate it, is trying to undermine the very fabric of the nation. And as for what religion the country was founded on - the fact that the FIRST amendment forbids the establishment of any religion for the country shows the founders wise enough to understand every step towards theocracy is, indeed, a step towards hell. If you're a big 2nd Amendment supporter, perhaps you'll figure out part of the reason for the second amendment is to allow defense of the FIRST amendment! As for the arsenal nuts? You claim it's just a few - but they do get more headlines then just regular boring people. Is it really inconceivable to you that most liberals are similarly far more mainstream then the ones who make the news and talk-show circuit? Hopefully, if you don't get it yet, you'll eventually realize that everyone's shit stinks. And as far as making America great, again? That will occur when we get a president who is more dedicated to serving the country than serving himself. We see the crap that a lying cheating narcissist is doing - he tells you it's wonderful in his pre-K version of English and you really want it to be true.

                  Ravings en masse^

                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                  • L Lost User

                    Neither is Nike. The hypocrites are clowns like Kaepernick and yourself that want Nike to avoid it all the while saying nothing when Obama flew it.

                    The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    hypocrites

                    You still don't know the meaning of the word.

                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    that want Nike to avoid it all

                    Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists. That's fine by me.

                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    saying nothing when Obama flew it.

                    Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol. I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.

                    Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                    • M Majerus

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      hypocrites

                      You still don't know the meaning of the word.

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      that want Nike to avoid it all

                      Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists. That's fine by me.

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      saying nothing when Obama flew it.

                      Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol. I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.

                      Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                      Majerus wrote:

                      You still don't know the meaning of the word.

                      One of us doesn't... :rolleyes:

                      Majerus wrote:

                      Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists

                      No they didn't. They caved to a ridiculous request from an idiot. The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution not white supremacists. Only idiots would give neo-Nazis any value at all. I certainly don't.

                      Majerus wrote:

                      Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol.

                      Neither did Nike... so why shouldn't they use it?

                      Majerus wrote:

                      I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.

                      I feel the same way about the left.

                      The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                        Majerus wrote:

                        You still don't know the meaning of the word.

                        One of us doesn't... :rolleyes:

                        Majerus wrote:

                        Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists

                        No they didn't. They caved to a ridiculous request from an idiot. The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution not white supremacists. Only idiots would give neo-Nazis any value at all. I certainly don't.

                        Majerus wrote:

                        Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol.

                        Neither did Nike... so why shouldn't they use it?

                        Majerus wrote:

                        I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.

                        I feel the same way about the left.

                        The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                        One of us doesn't.

                        Yeah, you.

                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                        No they didn't.

                        Yeah, they did.

                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                        The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution

                        And now, unfortunately, it's becoming associated with neo-Nazis.

                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                        Neither did Nike

                        I never said they did. They made a choice not to be associated with white supremists.

                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                        I feel the same way about the left.

                        On this topic, they aren't.

                        Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                        • M Majerus

                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          One of us doesn't.

                          Yeah, you.

                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          No they didn't.

                          Yeah, they did.

                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution

                          And now, unfortunately, it's becoming associated with neo-Nazis.

                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          Neither did Nike

                          I never said they did. They made a choice not to be associated with white supremists.

                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          I feel the same way about the left.

                          On this topic, they aren't.

                          Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                          Majerus wrote:

                          And now, unfortunately, it's becoming associated with neo-Nazis.

                          No. No, it's not. Neo-Nazi ass-wipes don't have the moral authority. Idiots like you shouldn't give it to them.

                          Majerus wrote:

                          They made a choice not to be associated with white supremists.

                          Again, no. They caved to idiots.

                          Majerus wrote:

                          On this topic, they aren't.

                          :laugh: They started it!

                          The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                            Majerus wrote:

                            And now, unfortunately, it's becoming associated with neo-Nazis.

                            No. No, it's not. Neo-Nazi ass-wipes don't have the moral authority. Idiots like you shouldn't give it to them.

                            Majerus wrote:

                            They made a choice not to be associated with white supremists.

                            Again, no. They caved to idiots.

                            Majerus wrote:

                            On this topic, they aren't.

                            :laugh: They started it!

                            The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                            Mike Mullikin wrote:

                            No, it's not.

                            Unfortunately it is.

                            Mike Mullikin wrote:

                            Neo-Nazi ass-wipes don't have the moral authority.

                            They don't need any moral authority. Those idiots that turned Pepe the Frog into a symbol of hate don't have any moral authority. Whatever moral authority white supremists are getting is coming straight from our current president*.

                            Mike Mullikin wrote:

                            Again, no.

                            Again yes.

                            Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                              Mike Mullikin wrote:

                              No, it's not.

                              Unfortunately it is.

                              Mike Mullikin wrote:

                              Neo-Nazi ass-wipes don't have the moral authority.

                              They don't need any moral authority. Those idiots that turned Pepe the Frog into a symbol of hate don't have any moral authority. Whatever moral authority white supremists are getting is coming straight from our current president*.

                              Mike Mullikin wrote:

                              Again, no.

                              Again yes.

                              Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                              Pathetic. :|

                              The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                                Pathetic. :|

                                The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                                I win. Thanks for playing. ;P

                                Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                                  Right-wing religious asswipes have, for example, put obstacles and are trying remove a woman's right to chose to have a baby or not (even when their papa raped them). Pushing your religious views on others who don't share them, especially trying to legislate it, is trying to undermine the very fabric of the nation. And as for what religion the country was founded on - the fact that the FIRST amendment forbids the establishment of any religion for the country shows the founders wise enough to understand every step towards theocracy is, indeed, a step towards hell. If you're a big 2nd Amendment supporter, perhaps you'll figure out part of the reason for the second amendment is to allow defense of the FIRST amendment! As for the arsenal nuts? You claim it's just a few - but they do get more headlines then just regular boring people. Is it really inconceivable to you that most liberals are similarly far more mainstream then the ones who make the news and talk-show circuit? Hopefully, if you don't get it yet, you'll eventually realize that everyone's shit stinks. And as far as making America great, again? That will occur when we get a president who is more dedicated to serving the country than serving himself. We see the crap that a lying cheating narcissist is doing - he tells you it's wonderful in his pre-K version of English and you really want it to be true.

                                  Ravings en masse^

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                  Right-wing religious asswipes have, for example, put obstacles and are trying remove a woman's right to chose to have a baby or not

                                  You don't have to be religious to be anti-abortion, and as far as I know if abortion is legal or not isn't a particularly partisan issue. Not in a pure sense anyway, it has been an artificially partisan issue since Nixon. Outside of the US (here in the UK just to give one example I'm personally familiar with) it's not a party political issue at all. Women should be allowed abortions and that's that, all parties pretty much agree.

                                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                  the FIRST amendment forbids the establishment of any religion for the country

                                  I'm not going to argue the constitution with someone that clearly doesn't understand it. And I'm from the UK.

                                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                  You claim it's just a few

                                  Surely we can agree that "preppers" are an extreme minority of the population?

                                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                  Is it really inconceivable to you that most liberals are similarly far more mainstream then the ones who make the news and talk-show circuit?

                                  It's not what is conceivable, there are studies that show right-wing people are generally centre right with the obvious outliers, and liberals have shifted greatly toward the extreme left. Here's one study http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/10/05162647/10-05-2017-Political-landscape-release.pdf You'll probably find articles that break it down a bit, that's a hell of a read. I could link you to some but I don't want to give you the opportunity to simply attack the source and not the argument.

                                  W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                  That will occur when we get a president who is more dedicated to serving the country than serving himself.

                                  The economy is doing great, disadvantaged people are doing great, he's tackling nuclear disarmament on the Korean peninsula. Seems to me he's doing a pretty good job, not just for America but for the rest of the world. Deescalating issues with Iran and North Korean is good for the whole world, no? Or do you hate Trump so much that you're going to

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                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    Right-wing religious asswipes have, for example, put obstacles and are trying remove a woman's right to chose to have a baby or not

                                    You don't have to be religious to be anti-abortion, and as far as I know if abortion is legal or not isn't a particularly partisan issue. Not in a pure sense anyway, it has been an artificially partisan issue since Nixon. Outside of the US (here in the UK just to give one example I'm personally familiar with) it's not a party political issue at all. Women should be allowed abortions and that's that, all parties pretty much agree.

                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    the FIRST amendment forbids the establishment of any religion for the country

                                    I'm not going to argue the constitution with someone that clearly doesn't understand it. And I'm from the UK.

                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    You claim it's just a few

                                    Surely we can agree that "preppers" are an extreme minority of the population?

                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    Is it really inconceivable to you that most liberals are similarly far more mainstream then the ones who make the news and talk-show circuit?

                                    It's not what is conceivable, there are studies that show right-wing people are generally centre right with the obvious outliers, and liberals have shifted greatly toward the extreme left. Here's one study http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/10/05162647/10-05-2017-Political-landscape-release.pdf You'll probably find articles that break it down a bit, that's a hell of a read. I could link you to some but I don't want to give you the opportunity to simply attack the source and not the argument.

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                                    That will occur when we get a president who is more dedicated to serving the country than serving himself.

                                    The economy is doing great, disadvantaged people are doing great, he's tackling nuclear disarmament on the Korean peninsula. Seems to me he's doing a pretty good job, not just for America but for the rest of the world. Deescalating issues with Iran and North Korean is good for the whole world, no? Or do you hate Trump so much that you're going to

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                                    you want to see it fail just so you can stick it to Trump. Pathetic.

                                    Exactly! We saw the same mentality with a small portion of the right when Obama was POTUS (and before that with a small portion of the left under Bush II) but today's American left is taking their hatred to an entirely new level. They even blame Trump for their own hatred.

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                                      Le centriste wrote:

                                      The only thing liberals hate more than capitalism is their own country.

                                      That is completely false.

                                      Are you sure? American Pride Hits New Low; Few Proud of Political System[^]

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                                      22% of Democrats are extremely proud, down 10 points in one year

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                                      most Republicans have remained extremely proud of their country, and the latest 76% reading is just 10 points below the high recorded in 2003.

                                      The polls disagree with you. However, America is so great that even its haters won't leave. :laugh:

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                                      However, America is so great that even its haters won't leave

                                      Actually, you'd be surprised. We have more than a thousand just in my town.

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                                        Majerus wrote:

                                        You still don't know the meaning of the word.

                                        One of us doesn't... :rolleyes:

                                        Majerus wrote:

                                        Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists

                                        No they didn't. They caved to a ridiculous request from an idiot. The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution not white supremacists. Only idiots would give neo-Nazis any value at all. I certainly don't.

                                        Majerus wrote:

                                        Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol.

                                        Neither did Nike... so why shouldn't they use it?

                                        Majerus wrote:

                                        I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.

                                        I feel the same way about the left.

                                        The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                                        I have to admit I find it difficult figuring out what false assumptions about me you are basing your statements on. I suspect your thought process went something like this: Nike "caved" to the overwhelming pressure of Kaepernick - 'The power of Kaepernick compels you!'. :laugh: I said I thought Nike made the right choice. Therefore, I must believe that any use of the Betsy Ross flag is forbidden. :rolleyes: It must follow that I must be retroactively opposed to Obama's use of the flag during his inauguration. (As an aside, you never bothered to show that neo-Nazis were using the flag back then.) As bizarre as that thought process is, it's the only one I can come up with that explains your curious belief that I am a hypocrite.

                                        Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                                          I have to admit I find it difficult figuring out what false assumptions about me you are basing your statements on. I suspect your thought process went something like this: Nike "caved" to the overwhelming pressure of Kaepernick - 'The power of Kaepernick compels you!'. :laugh: I said I thought Nike made the right choice. Therefore, I must believe that any use of the Betsy Ross flag is forbidden. :rolleyes: It must follow that I must be retroactively opposed to Obama's use of the flag during his inauguration. (As an aside, you never bothered to show that neo-Nazis were using the flag back then.) As bizarre as that thought process is, it's the only one I can come up with that explains your curious belief that I am a hypocrite.

                                          Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne

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                                          Lefties love SJWs. Nearly all SJWs are hardcore leftists. Kaepernick is today's most iconic anti-American, race baiting, identity politics SJW. When he whines to Nike it's backed up by a large contingent of leftists and their pet media. He and them and you believe that neo-Nazis have somehow co-opted the Betsy Ross flag. I have no idea where any of you folks got this idea. It's ludicrous. Don't Nazis also use the number 88 for some symbolic reason? Have they co-opted that number? Should it be stricken from the record of all documents? Should sports team ban it from jerseys? NO! That would be ridiculous and everybody with more than 1/2 a brain understands that. If you recall, you made this claim about the neo-Nazis and the Betsy Ross flag but have backed it up with nothing. My first few posts on this thread were simply questions asking when this happened. You refused to answer. Make a claim with no evidence and refuse to answer any questions about it - vintage Majerus... hell, vintage leftist. The reasons I asked about the timing were 1) I'd never heard of it and 2) I knew President Obama used the flag during his presidency and found it odd that a black man would do that if in fact it were true. So the logic goes like this... Kaepernick and your ilk make this shit up (or give WAY MORE credence to neo-Nazi symbolism than it deserves). Despite it being a simple athletic shoe that has nothing to do with anything and despite Nike having no record of white supremacy BS y'all pressure them into killing it. None of you acknowledge that your favorite POTUS of all time used the very same flag for equally benign reasons within the last decade and you said... nothing. Hypocrites... all.

                                          The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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