Nike Sneaker Decision
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Nope. Neo-Nazis have co-opted the flag and during a time of growing racist white nationalism, Nike made a smart decision
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
When did this "co-opting" take place?
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ZurdoDev wrote:
So, now you are saying that I am responsible for people misrepresenting something I believe in.
Not fully comprehended by you. I'm telling you that YOU misrepresent what you (claim to) believe in. In fact - now that I think of it - a group of christians who believed in what you claim it represents were ostracized were banished from their New World colony. They needed to set up their own colony, Rhode Island, to be safe. They actually took nothing from the natives unless they bought it. But, as I noted, they were persecuted by the 'real' christians and had to flee.
Here - since you'll never look it up, but for other readers:Quote:
Roger Williams (c. 21 December 1603 – between 27 January and 15 March 1683)[1] was a Puritan minister, theologian, and author who founded the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. He was a staunch advocate for religious freedom, separation of church and state, and fair dealings with American Indians, and he was one of the first abolitionists.[2][3]
So we know how things go in reality.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
:laugh: :laugh: I love when non-Christians try to tell me what real Christians are like. :doh:
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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:laugh: :laugh: I love when non-Christians try to tell me what real Christians are like. :doh:
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
Mirror Mirror on the Wall - who's religion's best of all? Obviously your favorite psalm.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Troll level: 1 out of 5 Would not read again.
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When did this "co-opting" take place?
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
When they started using it in their rallies
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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When they started using it in their rallies
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
Sorry, I've never been to a white supremacist rally. What year did this begin?
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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Sorry, I've never been to a white supremacist rally. What year did this begin?
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
Use your google skills
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded. They are destroying a supporting foundation of the greatness - and thus not only hate it but are its enemy. And, of course, those that want to buy an arsenal of weapons, hold up in some compound (in Idaho, perhaps?) and decide they don't have to live by the laws of the land - and got the weapons to defend the right to be separatists (how is that different, than, say, islamic seperatist anywhere else in the world?). Pick and choose amendments and rights for others? They hate this country. They want to make it into something else - and it's not into anything good - except of course for them.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.
a) what does what religious people do have anything to do with non-liberals? b) what does pushing your religious views on others have to do with hating your country? edit: especially of the country was founded on the religion in question
W∴ Balboos wrote:
those that want to buy an arsenal of weapons, hold up in some compound (in Idaho, perhaps?) and decide they don't have to live by the laws of the land
Um, yeah, that's what a minority of these people believe for sure, but what does that have to do with hating your country? Why does insisting on having your (perceived) rights mean you hate your country? People who live in free countries and demand freedoms are taken away....that's who hates their country.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
They want to make it into something else
Yeah, they want to make it great again ;)
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Use your google skills
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
No thanks. I was pretty sure you couldn't / wouldn't answer my questions. Thanks for playing!
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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No thanks. I was pretty sure you couldn't / wouldn't answer my questions. Thanks for playing!
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
you’re the one who thinks a specific date is important. I don’t.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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you’re the one who thinks a specific date is important. I don’t.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
I think it's relatively important because your hero, President Barack Obama, prominently flew the "Betsy Ross" flag at his inaugurations. :rolleyes: I like pointing out your endless hypocrisy.
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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I think it's relatively important because your hero, President Barack Obama, prominently flew the "Betsy Ross" flag at his inaugurations. :rolleyes: I like pointing out your endless hypocrisy.
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
I like pointing out your endless hypocrisy.
LOL you really have no idea what the word means. Now if Obama was a white supremist and used that flag as a symbol of his white supremacy, you might have a point. He isn't and didn't. And you don't have a point.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
When they push their views, particularly religious views, upon others around them - they violate one of the great principles upon which this country was founded.
a) what does what religious people do have anything to do with non-liberals? b) what does pushing your religious views on others have to do with hating your country? edit: especially of the country was founded on the religion in question
W∴ Balboos wrote:
those that want to buy an arsenal of weapons, hold up in some compound (in Idaho, perhaps?) and decide they don't have to live by the laws of the land
Um, yeah, that's what a minority of these people believe for sure, but what does that have to do with hating your country? Why does insisting on having your (perceived) rights mean you hate your country? People who live in free countries and demand freedoms are taken away....that's who hates their country.
W∴ Balboos wrote:
They want to make it into something else
Yeah, they want to make it great again ;)
Right-wing religious asswipes have, for example, put obstacles and are trying remove a woman's right to chose to have a baby or not (even when their papa raped them). Pushing your religious views on others who don't share them, especially trying to legislate it, is trying to undermine the very fabric of the nation. And as for what religion the country was founded on - the fact that the FIRST amendment forbids the establishment of any religion for the country shows the founders wise enough to understand every step towards theocracy is, indeed, a step towards hell. If you're a big 2nd Amendment supporter, perhaps you'll figure out part of the reason for the second amendment is to allow defense of the FIRST amendment! As for the arsenal nuts? You claim it's just a few - but they do get more headlines then just regular boring people. Is it really inconceivable to you that most liberals are similarly far more mainstream then the ones who make the news and talk-show circuit? Hopefully, if you don't get it yet, you'll eventually realize that everyone's shit stinks. And as far as making America great, again? That will occur when we get a president who is more dedicated to serving the country than serving himself. We see the crap that a lying cheating narcissist is doing - he tells you it's wonderful in his pre-K version of English and you really want it to be true.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
I like pointing out your endless hypocrisy.
LOL you really have no idea what the word means. Now if Obama was a white supremist and used that flag as a symbol of his white supremacy, you might have a point. He isn't and didn't. And you don't have a point.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
Neither is Nike. The hypocrites are clowns like Kaepernick and yourself that want Nike to avoid it all the while saying nothing when Obama flew it.
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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Neither is Nike. The hypocrites are clowns like Kaepernick and yourself that want Nike to avoid it all the while saying nothing when Obama flew it.
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
hypocrites
You still don't know the meaning of the word.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
that want Nike to avoid it all
Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists. That's fine by me.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
saying nothing when Obama flew it.
Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol. I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
hypocrites
You still don't know the meaning of the word.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
that want Nike to avoid it all
Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists. That's fine by me.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
saying nothing when Obama flew it.
Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol. I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
Majerus wrote:
You still don't know the meaning of the word.
One of us doesn't... :rolleyes:
Majerus wrote:
Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists
No they didn't. They caved to a ridiculous request from an idiot. The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution not white supremacists. Only idiots would give neo-Nazis any value at all. I certainly don't.
Majerus wrote:
Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol.
Neither did Nike... so why shouldn't they use it?
Majerus wrote:
I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.
I feel the same way about the left.
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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Majerus wrote:
You still don't know the meaning of the word.
One of us doesn't... :rolleyes:
Majerus wrote:
Nike made a choice not to become associated with white supremists
No they didn't. They caved to a ridiculous request from an idiot. The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution not white supremacists. Only idiots would give neo-Nazis any value at all. I certainly don't.
Majerus wrote:
Why should I? He didn't misuse the symbol.
Neither did Nike... so why shouldn't they use it?
Majerus wrote:
I thinks it's humorous the right is shi_t_ting a brick over this.
I feel the same way about the left.
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
One of us doesn't.
Yeah, you.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
No they didn't.
Yeah, they did.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution
And now, unfortunately, it's becoming associated with neo-Nazis.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Neither did Nike
I never said they did. They made a choice not to be associated with white supremists.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
I feel the same way about the left.
On this topic, they aren't.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
One of us doesn't.
Yeah, you.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
No they didn't.
Yeah, they did.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
The Betsy Ross flag is associated with the American revolution
And now, unfortunately, it's becoming associated with neo-Nazis.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Neither did Nike
I never said they did. They made a choice not to be associated with white supremists.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
I feel the same way about the left.
On this topic, they aren't.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
Majerus wrote:
And now, unfortunately, it's becoming associated with neo-Nazis.
No. No, it's not. Neo-Nazi ass-wipes don't have the moral authority. Idiots like you shouldn't give it to them.
Majerus wrote:
They made a choice not to be associated with white supremists.
Again, no. They caved to idiots.
Majerus wrote:
On this topic, they aren't.
:laugh: They started it!
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
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Majerus wrote:
And now, unfortunately, it's becoming associated with neo-Nazis.
No. No, it's not. Neo-Nazi ass-wipes don't have the moral authority. Idiots like you shouldn't give it to them.
Majerus wrote:
They made a choice not to be associated with white supremists.
Again, no. They caved to idiots.
Majerus wrote:
On this topic, they aren't.
:laugh: They started it!
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
No, it's not.
Unfortunately it is.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Neo-Nazi ass-wipes don't have the moral authority.
They don't need any moral authority. Those idiots that turned Pepe the Frog into a symbol of hate don't have any moral authority. Whatever moral authority white supremists are getting is coming straight from our current president*.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Again, no.
Again yes.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
No, it's not.
Unfortunately it is.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Neo-Nazi ass-wipes don't have the moral authority.
They don't need any moral authority. Those idiots that turned Pepe the Frog into a symbol of hate don't have any moral authority. Whatever moral authority white supremists are getting is coming straight from our current president*.
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Again, no.
Again yes.
Before the oath, Trump has managed to surpass 2nd term Nixon for paranoia, 2nd term Reagan for corruption & 2nd term Bush for incompetence.--R. Schooley Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” The president fired the FBI director to obstruct a federal investigation into possible collusion with a foreign power to fix an election. - Jesse Berne
Pathetic. :|
The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.