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  • D DerekT P

    I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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    I used ServWise until fairly recently. I stopped because I wanted Let's-Encrypt style TLS. My long term plan to move to a Linux VM and install .net-for-Linux. I wish I had an in at CPanel, because if they added .net to their offering, it'd be rolled out to all the commodity hosting companies that use it.

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    • D DerekT P

      I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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      Michael Breeden
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      If you are talking multiple domains you may be at the point that a cloud VPN would be economical. They work really good and don't require a lot of technical expertise.

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      • D DerekT P

        I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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        Just use Azure, it does EVERYTHING on your list.

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          Just use Azure, it does EVERYTHING on your list.

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          DerekT P
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          I did once get Azure to run one of my ASP.Net sites (linked to an existing MySql d/b hosted elsewhere), but it took a day to work through the maze of config screens. I found it unbelievably complex, though it was probably just not what I'm used to. Never did work out even a rough guestimate of costs though. Plus adding things like MySql were complex / costly (though MS Sql Server, or functional equivalent, seemed simple enough - though I never really understood exactly WHAT database it was). At the moment it doesn't seem possible to just migrate from shared hosting to Azure without a vast amount of work, and for these "demo" sites that can't be justified; even ongoing, the learning curve with Azure seems, from where I'm standing, almost insurmountable. That there are hundreds of "learn azure" offerings suggests it's not just me. When I switched shared hosts (and came across Plesk for the first time) it took about 15 minutes to feel comfortable with doing all my site's admin in Plesk. Azure is a whole new paradigm and environment, with tentacles reaching down into VisualStudio. I appreciate it might be a cheaper option, especially as I have lots of low-use, low data sites - but there's no way I can find out how much it might cost.

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          • D DerekT P

            I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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            Solution Sistemas
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            https://www.smarterasp.net/index Is very good

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            • D DerekT P

              I did once get Azure to run one of my ASP.Net sites (linked to an existing MySql d/b hosted elsewhere), but it took a day to work through the maze of config screens. I found it unbelievably complex, though it was probably just not what I'm used to. Never did work out even a rough guestimate of costs though. Plus adding things like MySql were complex / costly (though MS Sql Server, or functional equivalent, seemed simple enough - though I never really understood exactly WHAT database it was). At the moment it doesn't seem possible to just migrate from shared hosting to Azure without a vast amount of work, and for these "demo" sites that can't be justified; even ongoing, the learning curve with Azure seems, from where I'm standing, almost insurmountable. That there are hundreds of "learn azure" offerings suggests it's not just me. When I switched shared hosts (and came across Plesk for the first time) it took about 15 minutes to feel comfortable with doing all my site's admin in Plesk. Azure is a whole new paradigm and environment, with tentacles reaching down into VisualStudio. I appreciate it might be a cheaper option, especially as I have lots of low-use, low data sites - but there's no way I can find out how much it might cost.

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              Are you willing to hire someone to help?

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                Are you willing to hire someone to help?

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                DerekT P
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                :laugh:

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                  :laugh:

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                  https://www.smarterasp.net/index is very good

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                  • D DerekT P

                    I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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                    DrTechnical
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                    I am using GoDaddy for my Windows Hosting. I agree their SSL cost is high, but it is possible to use Let's Encrypt SSL certs on their sites. There are YouTube videos that show how. I have a number of domains registered with GoDaddy, and but haven't registered one recently. They used to offer free emails with domains that lasted forever, but they started offering Outlook 365 and may be trying to wean their clients off the GoDaddy email services.

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                    • D DerekT P

                      I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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                      In the past I've used ASP Host Portal. They offer a lot from Windows and Linux hosting, to shared/dedicated servers and shared/dedicated cloud servers all in different tiers, and also email. They have data centers all over the world including London. It was very affordable. They even have an option where they will manage the dedicated server for you (updates, protection, etc.) The reason why I switched was because on the shared host, someone kept hitting the CPU limit and they said there was nothing they could do about it. It would cause my site to go down for hours at a time. It was happening more frequently so instead of switching to a dedicated server I moved to Azure since I thought it would be good to learn for future employment opportunities.

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                      • D DerekT P

                        I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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                        srife
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                        I second the vote for looking at Azure. For you sub-site, you can use the basic (free or shared) plan if your project's fit the requirements. They don't support custome certificates, however, you can use a free cloudflare account to apply HTTPS (using the Cloudflare cert from CloudFlare to Azure) They have also added a new pricing model for SQL that is based on usage. To see pricing, go to the Azure Pricing Calculator ()[^], select SQL, for Computer Tier select "ServerLess". The pricing is much more reasonable. Back to the websites, the Free App Service plan is free (but limited in options), shared starts around $10 per month, and basic is 54.75 per month (B1: 1 Core, 1.75 GB Ram, 10GB Storage). I don't use MySql, but a quick look at the SAAS (Software as a Service) for MySql shows around $50 per month. It may very likely be cheaper to setup a Linux VM and install MySql, depending on your requirements. I looked at the pricing using the East US region, but you might want something closer. They have UK South, and North Europe regions for something closer to you, but it may affect pricing. If you purchase Visual Studio (yearly subscription), you can use the Azure Subscription that gives you 50$ credit per month which allows you to set things up and not have to pay anything as long as you don't exceed the credit. Another option is to get a Test/Dev Subscription which has reduced pricing. I've found Azure to be very easy to deal with and once you get comfortable with how to manage thing you'll find that it is generally trouble free.

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                        • D DerekT P

                          Tempting but at this stage in my career (winding down!) don't really want to take on a dedicated virtual box. It's around double what I'm paying now / can pay for a replacement shared host, so can't really justify it. Sounds a good price though, so thanks for that.

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                          lastlink
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                          There is elastic beanstalk and azure. You can get linux vps at many places for aroudn $5 a month (digital ocean etc) and then use ftp and the mysql db with your shared hosting option. I highly recommend this option. The reason behind shared web hosting moving away from windows servers is that it's windows. They cost wise are hard to maintain, patch, and keep secure. a2hosting which is the best bang for the bug was down 1 month 1/2 this year and there are no better alternatives at that price. I heavily recommend linux hosting. IIS has some nice features, but windows are notoriously easier to hack into than linux boxes. Until they upgrade kerstrel to the same level of functionality as IIS I don't see shared web hosts supporting IIS yet. Some shared webhosts let you ssh in nonroot and run services through an apache proxy. I've gotten this working with a2hostings shared linux solution I can run python, ruby, and nodejs applications on a port in the instance and reverse proxy to the port using the apache config. It usually goes down when they periodly restart my instance. I tried getting dotnet 2 working before, but it wouldn't I know that dotnet 3 has better support though.

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                          • D DerekT P

                            I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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                            Steve Naidamast
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                            I have always used WinHost in the United States at [ASP.NET Hosting | Windows Hosting at Winhost](https://www.winhost.com/) . They are very complete with their services and are very price competitive. There is also InterServe at [InterServer - Affordable Unlimited Web Hosting, Cloud VPS and Dedicated Servers](https://www.interserver.net/), which is also very price competitive. I am quite sure both services would welcome UK customers...

                            Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                              I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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                              John Calder
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                              AWS "Lightsail" product has been working well for me. Windows Server VM with 2 Gig RAM allowance has a predictable USD 20 per month base price. I have also had good value from "databasemart" in the US who are windows hosting specialists.

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                                A lot of the subdomains are demo sites of past projects and I need to just copy them and forget about them, definitely don't want to be swapping databases or frameworks! Finding a non MS d/b is easy, most hosts support MySql (as that's used by default by Wordpress). Quite a few are switching to MariaDB I've noticed. (Fast2Host did that a few months ago, with no warning, and crashed all my MySql sites - although very close, MySql and MariaDB are NOT the same thing! (F2H tried to tell me that MariaDB was "the new name" for MySql; it's stupidity like that that's driving me away from them together with the unreliability).

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                                Yeah, MariaDB was forked from MySql by former MySql developers just after the acquisition by Oracle. It has drifted from MySql a bit during the years of development since, so if you are developing to Oracle MySql, you would have to do some reconfiguration for it to work properly with MariaDB.

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                                  I'm trying to find a hosting company. My existing host is having terrible networking problems and support levels are dropping drastically. But trying to find a UK-based (or at least UK-hosted) Windows hosting company (shared hosting, supporting ASP.Net + php + MySql + Sql Server, with multiple domains + subdomains included) seems to be nigh-on impossible. I'd looked a month or two ago when my current host's service levels were falling, and found Brixly - which seemed ideal. But trying to sign up with them yesterday - they no longer offer Windows hosting. Today I found A2: US based, but with Netherlands-based servers; not 100% perfect, but the deal and reviews were good. Spent 40 minutes checking they did everything I needed; clicked "buy" and got "This service is out of stock". Email to support - "We no longer provide Windows hosting". FastHosts are rubbish and despite a bargain-basement headline price, I can't host the multiple domains + subdomains at a sensible price. GoDaddy likewise - they support unlimited domains + subdomains - but only a single email account (and that's only free for the first year); no free backup; REALLY expensive SSL certs (no free LetsEncrypt). UKHosting (in their various aliases, of which there are lots) couldn't even tell me what version of php they support, and I left their sales and tech teams having an argument over whether they still sold MS Sql Server hosting! In short, I just can't find anything at a decent price. This worries me, not only from the point of view of hosting my own sites, but for the future of ASP.Net in the UK; if I can't host it at an economic price, how can I recommend it to my clients? Will I have any clients if they can't host their sites? (Tho' I'm semi-retired anyway - but I do need to support my existing clients). FYI, I'm hosting my own company site, a hobby site of my own, a small Wordpress site for my wife's home business, a potential money-making "side project"; and then a sub-domain for each of my clients, hosting a demo/development version of their sites. I also have a couple of live clients who access webservices hosted on my server, and these are the most critical (though least resource intensive). Nothing is what you would call "high throughput"... Though mainly ASP.Net, some of these sites also include Classic ASP or php; some use MySql and some MS Sql Databases. Am currently with Fast2Host - they were brilliant about 10 years ago, but have become increasingly unresponsive (and

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                                  I don't know if they are a "windows" host, but have you looked at Siteground? I know they are based out of the UK, but I think their data center is out of Spain. I use them and I really like them, but I am not as advanced a user as you are. Dave

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