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  • M Marc Clifton

    I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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    At least in the US, several companies have lost law suits about their websites not being ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) compliant. While the act does not specify a font size, courts have ruled in favor of vision impaired users. So think sites are going with larger font sizes to keep from being sued.

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      At least in the US, several companies have lost law suits about their websites not being ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) compliant. While the act does not specify a font size, courts have ruled in favor of vision impaired users. So think sites are going with larger font sizes to keep from being sued.

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      ^This

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      • M Marc Clifton

        I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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        ­

        It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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        • M Marc Clifton

          I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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          What ticks me off even worse is the really small gray text that is intended to be seen as secondary info, but that is so freakin small, I have to bring the site's scale up to 120% to read it. CP. Just sayin...

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            What ticks me off even worse is the really small gray text that is intended to be seen as secondary info, but that is so freakin small, I have to bring the site's scale up to 120% to read it. CP. Just sayin...

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            small gray light-grey text on a pale-grey background

            This is what really p's me off.

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              small gray light-grey text on a pale-grey background

              This is what really p's me off.

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              Forogar wrote:

              small gray light-grey text on a pale-grey background....This is what really p's me off.

              I'm not the only one then! X|

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              • M Marc Clifton

                I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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                WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read.

                  Without providing alt-text's for them images, causing blind man not to be able to place an order.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                    Not enough white space between lines!

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                    • S SpearFL

                      At least in the US, several companies have lost law suits about their websites not being ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) compliant. While the act does not specify a font size, courts have ruled in favor of vision impaired users. So think sites are going with larger font sizes to keep from being sued.

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                      Well, that's an interesting aspect and reason to go for the louder fonts, however, not many visually impaired users gonna use the development related websites. Also, most of the site developers might not be aware of the ADA.

                      You can have all the tools in the world but if you don't genuinely believe in yourself, it's useless.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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                        I had to install a plugin to automatically zoom to 130% or I can't read anything.

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          The persons programming the sites are getting older? :) Most sites I have to get about a foot from monitor and squint.

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                          peterkmx
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                          Hmm yet another theory is that they are getting younger and they are used to shout … :-)

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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                            Sander Rossel
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                            I haven't particularly noticed that, but I do know there's a bit of a opposite trend in games. When Final Fantasy XV came out I had to wear my glasses (which I never wear anymore) and I still wasn't able to read everything on my TV. I went looking for a patch and saw blogs and forums about the small font and apparently I already had a patch which made it bigger! In the end I put my couch something like a meter in front of the TV. I had the same problem with God of War. I read that more and more games use these ridiculously small fonts and more gamers have trouble reading them. It really takes out some of the fun because you're always squinting your eyes. A regular font on a computer, which is probably like half a meter away at most, is well readable for you and me. I never had trouble with CP, for example. But I can imagine that it's just a little too small for some people. Making it just a tad bigger might help those people and personally I don't really mind either. Although it can get annoying to read on phones where the screen can't fit that many characters.

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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                                Because actual responsive designs are hard. Much easier to just design for a small phone, and apply a fixed scaling factor on anything larger. :rolleyes:

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.

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                                  Usually, as we age, things get more difficult to read. I interpret this as Marc having discovered the fountain of youth, not that sites are any different.

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                                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                                    I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read.

                                    Without providing alt-text's for them images, causing blind man not to be able to place an order.

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/dominos-supreme-court.html "

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                                    The case was originally brought by a blind man named Guillermo Robles, who sued the pizza chain after he was unable to order food on Domino’s website and mobile app despite using screen-reading software.

                                    " So I'm wondering why he didn't call the order in. I don't want to seem unsympathetic to the disabled but this requirement seems a bit much. :confused:

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                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/dominos-supreme-court.html "

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                                      The case was originally brought by a blind man named Guillermo Robles, who sued the pizza chain after he was unable to order food on Domino’s website and mobile app despite using screen-reading software.

                                      " So I'm wondering why he didn't call the order in. I don't want to seem unsympathetic to the disabled but this requirement seems a bit much. :confused:

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                                      MKJCP wrote:

                                      So I'm wondering why he didn't call the order in.

                                      Maybe he has a thick Scottisch accent? Doesn't change the fact that most websites provide this simple to add "feature" that has been around since the img-tag. Why can't Dominoes?

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        MKJCP wrote:

                                        So I'm wondering why he didn't call the order in.

                                        Maybe he has a thick Scottisch accent? Doesn't change the fact that most websites provide this simple to add "feature" that has been around since the img-tag. Why can't Dominoes?

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        Ah, I didn't know it was a simple and common fix. I don't do any web stuff (except for my very simple and non-compliant personal site). I assumed it was a substantial task as it seems all I hear from folks at work and on CP is how difficult everything webbish seems to be. Thanks for the enlightenment.

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                                          Ah, I didn't know it was a simple and common fix. I don't do any web stuff (except for my very simple and non-compliant personal site). I assumed it was a substantial task as it seems all I hear from folks at work and on CP is how difficult everything webbish seems to be. Thanks for the enlightenment.

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                                          MKJCP wrote:

                                          Ah, I didn't know it was a simple and common fix.

                                          There just needs to be an alt-text for each image; the screenreader software will then "read" those tags out loud. Most websites do that already.

                                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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