The trend to use LARGE BIG SCREAMING FONTS
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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Client-Side TypeScript without ASP.NET, Angular, etc.What ticks me off even worse is the really small gray text that is intended to be seen as secondary info, but that is so freakin small, I have to bring the site's scale up to 120% to read it. CP. Just sayin...
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What ticks me off even worse is the really small gray text that is intended to be seen as secondary info, but that is so freakin small, I have to bring the site's scale up to 120% to read it. CP. Just sayin...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
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small gray light-grey text on a pale-grey background
This is what really p's me off.
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small gray light-grey text on a pale-grey background....This is what really p's me off.
I'm not the only one then! X|
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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Client-Side TypeScript without ASP.NET, Angular, etc.Marc Clifton wrote:
I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read.
Without providing alt-text's for them images, causing blind man not to be able to place an order.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Not enough white space between lines!
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At least in the US, several companies have lost law suits about their websites not being ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) compliant. While the act does not specify a font size, courts have ruled in favor of vision impaired users. So think sites are going with larger font sizes to keep from being sued.
Well, that's an interesting aspect and reason to go for the louder fonts, however, not many visually impaired users gonna use the development related websites. Also, most of the site developers might not be aware of the ADA.
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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Client-Side TypeScript without ASP.NET, Angular, etc.I had to install a plugin to automatically zoom to 130% or I can't read anything.
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The persons programming the sites are getting older? :) Most sites I have to get about a foot from monitor and squint.
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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Client-Side TypeScript without ASP.NET, Angular, etc.I haven't particularly noticed that, but I do know there's a bit of a opposite trend in games. When Final Fantasy XV came out I had to wear my glasses (which I never wear anymore) and I still wasn't able to read everything on my TV. I went looking for a patch and saw blogs and forums about the small font and apparently I already had a patch which made it bigger! In the end I put my couch something like a meter in front of the TV. I had the same problem with God of War. I read that more and more games use these ridiculously small fonts and more gamers have trouble reading them. It really takes out some of the fun because you're always squinting your eyes. A regular font on a computer, which is probably like half a meter away at most, is well readable for you and me. I never had trouble with CP, for example. But I can imagine that it's just a little too small for some people. Making it just a tad bigger might help those people and personally I don't really mind either. Although it can get annoying to read on phones where the screen can't fit that many characters.
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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Client-Side TypeScript without ASP.NET, Angular, etc.Because actual responsive designs are hard. Much easier to just design for a small phone, and apply a fixed scaling factor on anything larger. :rolleyes:
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read.
Without providing alt-text's for them images, causing blind man not to be able to place an order.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/dominos-supreme-court.html "
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The case was originally brought by a blind man named Guillermo Robles, who sued the pizza chain after he was unable to order food on Domino’s website and mobile app despite using screen-reading software.
" So I'm wondering why he didn't call the order in. I don't want to seem unsympathetic to the disabled but this requirement seems a bit much. :confused:
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/dominos-supreme-court.html "
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The case was originally brought by a blind man named Guillermo Robles, who sued the pizza chain after he was unable to order food on Domino’s website and mobile app despite using screen-reading software.
" So I'm wondering why he didn't call the order in. I don't want to seem unsympathetic to the disabled but this requirement seems a bit much. :confused:
MKJCP wrote:
So I'm wondering why he didn't call the order in.
Maybe he has a thick Scottisch accent? Doesn't change the fact that most websites provide this simple to add "feature" that has been around since the img-tag. Why can't Dominoes?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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MKJCP wrote:
So I'm wondering why he didn't call the order in.
Maybe he has a thick Scottisch accent? Doesn't change the fact that most websites provide this simple to add "feature" that has been around since the img-tag. Why can't Dominoes?
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
Ah, I didn't know it was a simple and common fix. I don't do any web stuff (except for my very simple and non-compliant personal site). I assumed it was a substantial task as it seems all I hear from folks at work and on CP is how difficult everything webbish seems to be. Thanks for the enlightenment.
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Ah, I didn't know it was a simple and common fix. I don't do any web stuff (except for my very simple and non-compliant personal site). I assumed it was a substantial task as it seems all I hear from folks at work and on CP is how difficult everything webbish seems to be. Thanks for the enlightenment.
MKJCP wrote:
Ah, I didn't know it was a simple and common fix.
There just needs to be an alt-text for each image; the screenreader software will then "read" those tags out loud. Most websites do that already.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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What ticks me off even worse is the really small gray text that is intended to be seen as secondary info, but that is so freakin small, I have to bring the site's scale up to 120% to read it. CP. Just sayin...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Count me in. Even if the typeface is large enough by itself, web fashion of today is to use fonts made up of hairlines only. Single pixel width, or thereabouts. Sometimes medium or light grey as well. I think the designers might use the term "elegance" in describing the style. They definitely should not use the term "readability". In theory this should create no problems with web pages ... if what we were told 20 years ago had been true. It was said that the "cascading" nature of CSS allows you to define the typeface and size at the top level, and it would sift through the layers, adjusting whatever you wanted to adjust. We were told that the same page could be viewed using one CSS for large, high contrast text, another CSS for poor resolution screens, hence different fonts and other layout, yet another CSS for users with a braille terminal. This was a blatant lie. In the very first years, I tried to make alternate CSSes. Essentially it might affect websites that didn't use CSS at all (they did exist, 20 years ago!). For very simple, almost pure text pages, you might be able to affect some text, but often just part of it. I never saw a web site providing a "If you can't read this text because it is too small, click on it to enlarge font size" that could be scaled up by adding a local CSS. I never saw a single demo of a CSS that would give a braille reader access to the web page text, or a reduced-vision person higher contrast and larger typefaces, not even in the early days when absolute measures were considered inappropriate. Today, most websites set both typeface and size explicitlty, very close to the actual graphics, and in absolute values rather than relative. Changing a default has no effect whatsoever. I don't even know if today's browsers have facilities for inserting CSS files or set defaults. Why should they, when 99,99% of page elements will ignore it anyway? In theory I can, for each and every web page, pick up the specific CSS of that web page and edit it. Although there in theory is no difference between theory and practice, in pratice there is. The onlyu workable solution would be one a single "private" CSS, setting defaults for all web pages. Our only rescue is the zoom function. But that cannot change a light grey hairline font to a solid black font of a fatter design. To make the text readable I have to zoom up far more than I would do with a proper typface choice. I suspect that there is some way of setting up a global (on my machine) font substitution tab
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I've been noticing more and more that websites are setting their font size to something a blind man could read. Particularly sites with API documentation, but not exclusively. I find myself setting the zoom factor in Chrome to 75% or even less, simply so these pages don't SCREAM at me, like that.
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Well, that's an interesting aspect and reason to go for the louder fonts, however, not many visually impaired users gonna use the development related websites. Also, most of the site developers might not be aware of the ADA.
You can have all the tools in the world but if you don't genuinely believe in yourself, it's useless.
