Visual Studio update woes
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I run linux with a win7 vm for dev work on a 32gb box. I give the win7 vm four of the machines six cores and 24gb of RAM. I turn on internet access just long enough (one day per month) to get visual studio updates, and then turn it off again.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013I do a similar thing, win 7, but only 2 (of 6) cores ... and I only just realised last weekend 2GB RAM - yes 2G - and it was still really responsive. one item that does (did) slow it down (even with more RAM) is the background updater
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft visual studio\installer\resources\app\servicehub\services\microsoft.visualstudio.setup.service\backgrounddownload.exe
(- with the network blocked it 'self-fixes' that by firing off even more instances :confused: ) Anyway I renamed that file (i.e. ".exe" -> ".noexe") and likewise only change the name back when I open the network for it to check/do updates. finally there's also an autostart service "Visual Studio Standard Collector Service 150" vs works absolutely fine without it (connected or no), seemingly does nothing .... comments indicate it can be a memory hog - I dislike useless baggage, akin to carrying a 'spare' tin of pink [house] roof paint in the car when your house's roof is concrete tiles. - "150" ???? set that service to disabled (and then just stop it, no reboot required.)
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
Yeah, would be nice if a future update could allow the patches to be pushed via windows update and installed at the same time as your next planned restart. :sigh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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Yeah, would be nice if a future update could allow the patches to be pushed via windows update and installed at the same time as your next planned restart. :sigh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
At least they don't force it on you and interrupt your work day, so there's that.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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I haven't run it yet, but last two updates i got were 1GB each
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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I do a similar thing, win 7, but only 2 (of 6) cores ... and I only just realised last weekend 2GB RAM - yes 2G - and it was still really responsive. one item that does (did) slow it down (even with more RAM) is the background updater
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft visual studio\installer\resources\app\servicehub\services\microsoft.visualstudio.setup.service\backgrounddownload.exe
(- with the network blocked it 'self-fixes' that by firing off even more instances :confused: ) Anyway I renamed that file (i.e. ".exe" -> ".noexe") and likewise only change the name back when I open the network for it to check/do updates. finally there's also an autostart service "Visual Studio Standard Collector Service 150" vs works absolutely fine without it (connected or no), seemingly does nothing .... comments indicate it can be a memory hog - I dislike useless baggage, akin to carrying a 'spare' tin of pink [house] roof paint in the car when your house's roof is concrete tiles. - "150" ???? set that service to disabled (and then just stop it, no reboot required.)
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
Geez, 2GB with win and VS? I don't think I can get away with that since I do VSIX development which requires multiple instances of VS open. From my experience VS likes to eat between 1/4 and 1/2 GB depending on how it's feeling that day. Edit: I also have to use Chrome sometimes in the VM since firefox doesn't like the article submission wizard here at codeproject entirely. has problems pasting.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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I suppose the size depends on the collection of components you have. I only installed the C# Wpf, the C++ and the UWP components. I don't need anything else.
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I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
I have the latest production VS and the latest preview VS - I can code with one while the other is updating
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Geez, 2GB with win and VS? I don't think I can get away with that since I do VSIX development which requires multiple instances of VS open. From my experience VS likes to eat between 1/4 and 1/2 GB depending on how it's feeling that day. Edit: I also have to use Chrome sometimes in the VM since firefox doesn't like the article submission wizard here at codeproject entirely. has problems pasting.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
honey the codewitch wrote:
Edit: I also have to use Chrome sometimes in the VM since firefox doesn't like the article submission wizard here at codeproject entirely. has problems pasting.
That's another benefit of using VM, I run my browsers/email on the host. worth keeping what's installed on the guests to minimal requirements, cleaner, less to clone / snapshot or even rebuild, less chance of progs/installers interfering. - If you run databases worthwhile to install on host or separate guests, - also separate dev and test guests (common files/directories on host shared directories)
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
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Yeah, would be nice if a future update could allow the patches to be pushed via windows update and installed at the same time as your next planned restart. :sigh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Go to settings for Windows update and check "Recieve updates for other Microsoft products when you update Windows". Works for me.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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I mean, yes but...
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
There's always emacs. :)
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Go to settings for Windows update and check "Recieve updates for other Microsoft products when you update Windows". Works for me.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Could've sworn I had that turned on... Probably just forgot when setting this PC up. :sigh:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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There's always emacs. :)
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
Indeed classic.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Because visual Studio is still the best IDE with a wide margin!
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
That's as true as can be, but it's the windows infrastructure and updater that's the problem.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
VS updates work very differently than Windows updates, in terms of its insistence for getting them installed. Is there really any reason you can't postpone the VS updates until you're not going to be using your system? Most of the time I get update notifications for VS in the middle of the day. They're not preventing me from using VS. I just wait until quitting time (sometimes I let it wait for days, sometimes *another* update has already come out by the time I gave it the okay), then tell it to go ahead..and wait for the process to get far enough I know it's not going to be waiting for a confirmation prompt. By the time I come back next morning, everything's done. *Windows* updates OTOH...don't get me started...
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Because visual Studio is still the best IDE with a wide margin!
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Forsooth! :-D
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Go to settings for Windows update and check "Recieve updates for other Microsoft products when you update Windows". Works for me.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
I have that turned on as well, but Visual Studio updates do not come through Windows Update.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I have VSIX stuff and a bunch of C++ stuff so that's probably why. The MFC libs and headers alone are huge.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
I have been using Visual Studio for many years, now on 2019 (16.4.3). Updates don't really bother me. I even enjoy reading Update Notes so I am familiar with updates.
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:thumbsup: Same here, never had an issue at all with internet speed, VS (or whatever) update speed, on both work and home machines.
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
Visual studio downloader, first downloads, then asks you; do you want to upgrade. Not the other way around. So of cause you're not waiting for downloads, when its done downloading, when it asks you :) (It's magic!)
