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  • C Cp Coder

    I suppose the size depends on the collection of components you have. I only installed the C# Wpf, the C++ and the UWP components. I don't need anything else.

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    honey the codewitch
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    I have VSIX stuff and a bunch of C++ stuff so that's probably why. The MFC libs and headers alone are huge.

    Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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      I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?

      Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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      RugbyLeague
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      I have the latest production VS and the latest preview VS - I can code with one while the other is updating

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      • H honey the codewitch

        Geez, 2GB with win and VS? I don't think I can get away with that since I do VSIX development which requires multiple instances of VS open. From my experience VS likes to eat between 1/4 and 1/2 GB depending on how it's feeling that day. Edit: I also have to use Chrome sometimes in the VM since firefox doesn't like the article submission wizard here at codeproject entirely. has problems pasting.

        Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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        Lost User
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        honey the codewitch wrote:

        Edit: I also have to use Chrome sometimes in the VM since firefox doesn't like the article submission wizard here at codeproject entirely. has problems pasting.

        That's another benefit of using VM, I run my browsers/email on the host. worth keeping what's installed on the guests to minimal requirements, cleaner, less to clone / snapshot or even rebuild, less chance of progs/installers interfering. - If you run databases worthwhile to install on host or separate guests, - also separate dev and test guests (common files/directories on host shared directories)

        after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!

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        • D Dan Neely

          Yeah, would be nice if a future update could allow the patches to be pushed via windows update and installed at the same time as your next planned restart. :sigh:

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          Go to settings for Windows update and check "Recieve updates for other Microsoft products when you update Windows". Works for me.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          • H honey the codewitch

            I mean, yes but...

            Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            There's always emacs. :)

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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              Go to settings for Windows update and check "Recieve updates for other Microsoft products when you update Windows". Works for me.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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              Dan Neely
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              Could've sworn I had that turned on... Probably just forgot when setting this PC up. :sigh:

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              • J Jorgen Andersson

                There's always emacs. :)

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                honey the codewitch
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                Obligatory XKCD[^]

                Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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                • H honey the codewitch

                  Obligatory XKCD[^]

                  Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  Indeed classic.

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                    Because visual Studio is still the best IDE with a wide margin!

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    That's as true as can be, but it's the windows infrastructure and updater that's the problem.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?

                      Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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                      dandy72
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                      VS updates work very differently than Windows updates, in terms of its insistence for getting them installed. Is there really any reason you can't postpone the VS updates until you're not going to be using your system? Most of the time I get update notifications for VS in the middle of the day. They're not preventing me from using VS. I just wait until quitting time (sometimes I let it wait for days, sometimes *another* update has already come out by the time I gave it the okay), then tell it to go ahead..and wait for the process to get far enough I know it's not going to be waiting for a confirmation prompt. By the time I come back next morning, everything's done. *Windows* updates OTOH...don't get me started...

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        Because visual Studio is still the best IDE with a wide margin!

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        Forsooth! :-D

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                        • J Jorgen Andersson

                          Go to settings for Windows update and check "Recieve updates for other Microsoft products when you update Windows". Works for me.

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          I have that turned on as well, but Visual Studio updates do not come through Windows Update.

                          #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            I have VSIX stuff and a bunch of C++ stuff so that's probably why. The MFC libs and headers alone are huge.

                            Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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                            As little MSFT-specific stuff for me as possible, which keeps it far more manageable. And no C# either. If I can new objects, I can bloody well delete them.

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?

                              Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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                              Vaso Elias
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                              I have been using Visual Studio for many years, now on 2019 (16.4.3). Updates don't really bother me. I even enjoy reading Update Notes so I am familiar with updates.

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                              • S Slacker007

                                :thumbsup: Same here, never had an issue at all with internet speed, VS (or whatever) update speed, on both work and home machines.

                                It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette

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                                Visual studio downloader, first downloads, then asks you; do you want to upgrade. Not the other way around. So of cause you're not waiting for downloads, when its done downloading, when it asks you :) (It's magic!)

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                                  Visual studio downloader, first downloads, then asks you; do you want to upgrade. Not the other way around. So of cause you're not waiting for downloads, when its done downloading, when it asks you :) (It's magic!)

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                                  Slacker007
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                                  Mine is setup to never download without my permission. I get notifications letting me know there is an upgraded version. I decide when it gets downloaded and installed. I have this configured for both my personal and work machines. Perhaps, some people have no control over their work environments; not sure.

                                  It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette

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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?

                                    Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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                                    obermd
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                                    I don't have this problem. VS notifies me of the updates and patiently waits until I'm ready to do the update. I've learned to check the notification flag only when I'm done with my work.

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                                      I don't have this problem. VS notifies me of the updates and patiently waits until I'm ready to do the update. I've learned to check the notification flag only when I'm done with my work.

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                                      honey the codewitch
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                                      I mean, it waits for me. It's just that i never remember to update at the end of the day. Or I need to add packages mid day. In those cases, it would be nice to have a spare VM running to install on while I'm using it in the other VM.

                                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                                      • H honey the codewitch

                                        I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?

                                        Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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                                        Kelly Wilkerson
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                                        When you see that an update is available, just start the VS Installer before bed and allow it to do it's thing overnight. Seems easier than juggling VMs.

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                                        • H honey the codewitch

                                          I just get visual studio installed and then they want me to update. The updates take far too long, IMO. I get frustrated because I can't code while it's updating but the only time i'm notified of updates is when I'm ready to sit down and code! otherwise i wouldn't open VS in the first place. Since I'm driving my source repos from GitHub anyway I think I have a mid to long term fix. This year I should be getting a new dev machine with at least 32GB of RAM. That way I should be able to run multiple VMs. I can install on one VM while coding on the other and swap out of the image when its done. It's silly that I'd have to do it this way, but at least it's a way forward. Why visual studio? why?

                                          Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.

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                                          MSBassSinger
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                                          You can also run VS Installer, and it will check for updates. Not a problem for me.

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