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Would you trust a self-driving car?

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  • R rjmoses

    The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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    Leo56
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    I just hope Audi, Mercedes and BMW hurry the hell up and start producing theirs - got to be better than some/most of the dorks who drive their cars at the moment

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    • R rjmoses

      The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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      maze3
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      In my life time: yes.

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      • R rjmoses

        The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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        Hooga Booga
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        Leaning toward yes. The technology isn't quite there, but it is quickly getting there. Although I enjoy driving, I look forward to the day when self driving cars are mandated: 1. There are so many scared/inattentive/aggressive/distracted drivers and self driving will eliminate those dangers. 2. Traffic congestion can be minimized. With closer following tolerances, fewer stupid moves and dramatic reduction in accidents, drive times will be shortened.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Go to QA. Read a couple of hundred questions. Self driving cars? You'll never use a bank, airplane, or mobile phone again ... :sigh: TBH: compared to the quality of driving you get from trained, licenced, apparently legal drivers I suspect that a self driving car that drove itself into a tree one trip out of a thousand would be preferable company on the roads. It won't get drunk. It won't read the paper, text its mates, perform sex acts, disappear to have a rummage in the glove box, or just have such an intense chat with a passenger that eye contact is essential for minutes at a time. It won't let itself out on the road if it has a serious car defect, or if it's been disqualified, isn't insured, or - possibly - even stolen. It won't drive the wrong way into traffic to get away from the police, it won't deliberate drive though pedestrian areas, it won't drive 10cm from your rear bumper because it's in a hurry - if it does, it's talking to the car in front and savign road space and energy. Persuade me that all human drivers are better than that, before you try to prevent self driving cars ... In a generation, manual driving will probably be frowned upon like drunk driving is today, and will almost certainly be illegal.

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          agolddog
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          Agree it's a generational thing, and will become widely adopted over time. Happens through a combination of better self-driving vehicles and acceptance by society that's (now) used to it. Remember how people used to value their private information? But, you grow up in a society where that's not valued, you don't know any different. In terms of whether I'd trust it, depends. I believe in the power of technology to overcome complex problems--eventually. Agree also that it can become better than most drivers today (myself included of course--though I'm an excellent driver [Dustin Hoffman voice] ;-)) The first many iterations, I'd want an attentive attendant ready to take over to (hopefully) avoid any more of the problems we've seen. I don't have a feel for how many real-world iterations we'd need until we could say, "yeah, this is safe enough and ready for production."

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          • R rjmoses

            The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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            bleahy48
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            Of course not. But, of course, I would trust it way more than a car driven by a human.

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            • R rjmoses

              The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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              matblue25
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              I read the question as, “would you walk (or bicycle) along a road that has self-driving cars.” My answer to that is an emphatic no. Wouldn’t want a car to decide to run me over to save its passengers or whatever.

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              • R rjmoses

                Good point! Driver's Ed doesn't teach driving. I'm not sure what it teaches, but it sure doesn't teach driving--unless you live in a Nordic country like Belgium or Norway--there, they are required to teach such things as control skids, power slides, etc., because of icy roads.

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                obermd
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                rjmoses wrote:

                Good point! Driver's Ed doesn't teach driving.

                You're assuming they're taking driver's ed.

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                • N Nelek

                  :thumbsup::thumbsup: This is my answer everytime I get asked the same.

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  dandy72
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                  I don't get asked. I just butt into these random discussions with my opinions. :-)

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                  • R rjmoses

                    The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                    captonmike
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                    A lot of them have conditions like the lanes have to be visible, and where I live, that's just not a reality. I do think it would be better in the long run, but No, I wouldn't trust a self driving car.

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                    • R rjmoses

                      The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                      fredcicles
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                      Absolutely! Look, EVERYONE is a shitty driver. And yet we get out on the road and let ourselves believe that we are safe there. Everyone gets distracted by something: their phone, a song or discussion on the radio, a fight that they just had, a hottie in the car next to them, problems in life. Self driving cars will never be affected by THESE distractions. They may never be PERFECT but with their sole focus on driving, they will always be safer than the current alternative.

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                      • R rjmoses

                        The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                        Slow Eddie
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                        NO! But, I think they should start working on self-walking pedestrians, and self-driving bicycles and self-driving motor-scooters and motorcycles. Those are more of a danger to themselves and automotive traffic and each other than anything else. Additionally, All cars, trucks, bicycles, etc. should be fitted with a Wi-Fi signal jammer that operates whenever the vehicle is in motion.:mad::mad::mad:

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                        • D dandy72

                          I don't get asked. I just butt into these random discussions with my opinions. :-)

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                          Nelek
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                          I do get asked... (working for car related companies for a while)

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          • N Nelek

                            I do get asked... (working for car related companies for a while)

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            dandy72
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                            Anyone who wants an honest answer should be asking a software developer, not a car company. :-) (but then, if you work for one, you have the benefit of seeing it from both perspectives...and it sounds like you're agreeing with my response)

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                              Anyone who wants an honest answer should be asking a software developer, not a car company. :-) (but then, if you work for one, you have the benefit of seeing it from both perspectives...and it sounds like you're agreeing with my response)

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                              Nelek
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                              dandy72 wrote:

                              you have the benefit of seeing it from both perspectives...

                              Not only that... I have tested a lot of different cars and have been a lot of time on the road.

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                              .and it sounds like you're agreeing with my response)

                              I do. Although it has brought me a couple of discussions with co-workers just because I am realist and honest.

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              • R rjmoses

                                The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                                Daniel Wilianto
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                                I will. If I am allowed to see the source code and reprogram it myself. A bunch of drunkards jumped on the street right in front of you, what would you do? -> brake very hard -> swerve and go into accident myself -> brake normally and hit the drunkards

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                                • F fredcicles

                                  Absolutely! Look, EVERYONE is a shitty driver. And yet we get out on the road and let ourselves believe that we are safe there. Everyone gets distracted by something: their phone, a song or discussion on the radio, a fight that they just had, a hottie in the car next to them, problems in life. Self driving cars will never be affected by THESE distractions. They may never be PERFECT but with their sole focus on driving, they will always be safer than the current alternative.

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                                  rjmoses
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                                  I agree about bad drivers. Driving skills are not taught in Driver's Ed. The question then becomes: How much driving experience do the engineers/developers have in all the possible situations? And do they know enough to be able accommodate such things as controlling a skid on black ice? How about hydro-planing on worn tires? If they don't have the driving experience, how can they develop software to handle it? Just thinking.....

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