The "Evolution" of Windows
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Haven't had that problem with Word, but Teams is pretty bad at this. I'm *always* struggling to find a place I can click on the caption to drag the window around. I suspect there's some devs at Microsoft being told that everybody's running everything fullscreen (y'know...like you would on a tablet or phone)...so who still uses non-maximized windows nowadays, that you'd want to move around...?
Yeah I also face the same problem with MS Teams.
If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much.
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I think I still have one laying around somewhere in the external drives. And there is the internet archive... I suppose you can find oldies there too.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
If you have an MSDN subscription, you can download all the way back to Office 95 :cool: There's even Windows 3.1 if you want to go all nostalgic I think the availability depends on the subscription. (I have an Enterprise subscription)
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It is windows key + Shift key + Arrow in the direction of the window.
Thanks! Works on Ubuntu too.
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Excel is also bad for this, putting up a little symbol menu after a paste operation, or previewing a window containing another Excel document, both covering up things that you want to look at. Just stop with all this nonsense!
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I like it, in my workflow a lot of times I paste only values not formulas (that are meaningless in the new workbook), and more often, I strip HTML formatting from text in Word with it.
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I like it, in my workflow a lot of times I paste only values not formulas (that are meaningless in the new workbook), and more often, I strip HTML formatting from text in Word with it.
I paste values too, though not very often, and don't mind doing it without that thing that always overlays what I want to work on after pasting the usual way. :laugh:
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Just give it a few years, and Windows will no longer be able to open that document or even convert it to a version that can be opened. It happened to me with some stuff I had archived from the '90s. :mad:
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Microsoft blocks old file formats for "safety". :sigh: Those of us with a cynical bent might suspect that blocking old file formats was a push to get people to upgrade ... fortunately I'm not cynical ... ;P In Word 365: Click File --> Options --> Trust Center Click Trust Center Settings ... --> File Block Settings By default, file formats from the 90's are blocked. Read the instructions -- a checkmark indicates the file format/action is blocked. Uncheck any file formats you want to open. [This actually makes sense, although not at first blush.]
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Microsoft blocks old file formats for "safety". :sigh: Those of us with a cynical bent might suspect that blocking old file formats was a push to get people to upgrade ... fortunately I'm not cynical ... ;P In Word 365: Click File --> Options --> Trust Center Click Trust Center Settings ... --> File Block Settings By default, file formats from the 90's are blocked. Read the instructions -- a checkmark indicates the file format/action is blocked. Uncheck any file formats you want to open. [This actually makes sense, although not at first blush.]
I was trying to open stuff in PowerPoint'95, but none would open even after changing these settings (I have Office 2016 Professional but found them, so thanks for mentioning this). A search turned up zamzar.com, which failed to convert them when I tried a few years ago. But this time they succeeded. :)
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
This has nothing to do with Windows. It has to do with the way Office apps are now developed, adding lots of things on the Title Bar, you can still mode the window, but you need to find a place where there isn't something else over it. FYI, it's the same on MacOS. I use Office 365 Windows 365 on both platforms, same thing.
Gilles Plante
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I believe a lot of it is just "Change for the sake of change", and people trying to justify their job.:mad::mad: The same can be said for all of the creators of "new languages and frameworks". I started in 1980 and am right there with you.
First Kill all of the designers, THEN the lawyers.
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Just give it a few years, and Windows will no longer be able to open that document or even convert it to a version that can be opened. It happened to me with some stuff I had archived from the '90s. :mad:
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Solution to the problem, not the rant. Learn the WINDOWS + ARROWS key shortcuts to move windows around the screen and between monitors. Keeps your hands on the keyboard for faster workflow. Windows 10 tip: More window-snapping shortcuts and secrets | ZDNet[^]
"Qulatiy is Job #1"
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I think this is true for a vast majority of the modern UI world, regardless of the application or OS. There's no place to tap/click/touch without invoking a control. Drives me absolutely crazy.
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If you have an MSDN subscription, you can download all the way back to Office 95 :cool: There's even Windows 3.1 if you want to go all nostalgic I think the availability depends on the subscription. (I have an Enterprise subscription)
Didn't know... thank you.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
After taking the backward leap to the "Modern" interface, we are now moving into the "Cubism" period. Just keep watching. We should be seeing "surealism" making its way into UI design soon. Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.
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I agree, but you can use the same trick I use when a dialog is off screen (after unplugging a monitor eg.) - in the Windows taskbar hover over the application - hover over the thumbnail that appears - right click and select "Move" - use the arrow keys to move the window not ideal, but faster than 2 minutes :-) (but perhaps that was the solution you found ;-))
V.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
Oh yeah. Chrome and Firefox's title bar area are narrowed too, because they are filled with tabs. And if you have opened enough tab, you have no place to drag and drop the window anymore. They sacrificed functionality just so we can see a little bit more of opened website.
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Their instructions say
1. Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Excel Options.
What "Microsoft Office Button"?! Oh, this is for Excel 2007, which probably doesn't even open in Windows 10, and of course things were rearranged in Excel 2016. So after some hunting around... \>File > Options (way down at the bottom) > Advanced / Cut, copy, and paste / first check box
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Excel 2007 (and all the other 2007 Office apps) run just fine in Windows 10. And they have loads of title bar space.
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Excel 2007 (and all the other 2007 Office apps) run just fine in Windows 10. And they have loads of title bar space.
I was being facetious. Sort of. :)
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I was being facetious. Sort of. :)
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:-D
