c# var
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ZurdoDev wrote:
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
I felt the same way initially, and I agree, for something simple like a native type, I rarely use var. However:
var complicatedDictionary = new Dictionary>();and worse, I like definitely like it.Latest Articles:
Abusing Extension Methods, Null Continuation, and Null Coalescence Operators+1 For native types, I don't see the point in using var. I also subscribe to the idea of using: var x = new SomeMoreComplexType(); I don't mind: var x = SomeFunction(); ...if *I* don't particularly case about the type returned, for example, if I only use it to forward to some other function and I'm not looking at any of its members myself.
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What is the love affair with var? I see sample code where they do something like
var url = "http://someapi";
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
var url = "http://someapi";
Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
Is it a string? Could it be a URI[^]
Uri siteUri = new Uri("http://www.contoso.com/");
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ZurdoDev wrote:
var url = "http://someapi";
Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
Is it a string? Could it be a URI[^]
Uri siteUri = new Uri("http://www.contoso.com/");
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I use
auto, the C++ equivalent, whenever it will deduce the correct type. - It forces you to initialize the variable. - If the variable is initialized by calling a function, and that function's return type changes, the code might not even be affected. - Some type names are long or complicated, and I hate spilling lines. Some argue that it makes the code harder to understand because the reader has to figure out the type. My counterargument is that the reader doesn't understand how the code fits into the system if this is the case.Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
You are going on a dangerous path. It leads you to the days when an insignificant dot was significant:
auto i = 2;
auto j = 3;
auto k = i/j;
auto f = 2./j;
// f != k
// any similarity with FORTRAN is intentionalBesides "auto" has four letters and "int" has three; it's not energy efficient :)
Mircea
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You are going on a dangerous path. It leads you to the days when an insignificant dot was significant:
auto i = 2;
auto j = 3;
auto k = i/j;
auto f = 2./j;
// f != k
// any similarity with FORTRAN is intentionalBesides "auto" has four letters and "int" has three; it's not energy efficient :)
Mircea
Not very dangerous unless one ignores compiler warnings. Then again, I don't use floating point very often. The main one I have to watch for is
for(auto i = 0...
which makes
ianintwhen what might actually be called for is asize_t.Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
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Yes, it was a string.
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But what if you meant it as a URI? I think SQL would call this ambiguous
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MadMyche wrote:
But what if you meant it as a URI?
Then you do new Uri(string);
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What is the love affair with var? I see sample code where they do something like
var url = "http://someapi";
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
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When I moved from VB (where purists dump on var from a great height) to c# where explicit types were mandatory I lost all faith in
var, it became the one thing in VB that I loathed. Now that it has phoenixed in c# I refuse to use it. As forvarcontent changing type and not having to refactor, what a croc of shit, you should HAVE to refactor if you change type or at least check your usage of the variable.Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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I'd actually prefer it is you could do this:
Dictionary> complicatedDictionary = new *();
To me, that would be a more natural way of showing what the type of
complicatedDictionaryactually is. As it is, I findvaris mainly over used by the lazy-and-don't-care script kiddies ..."I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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The problem with that is that you are working to what should have been a breaking change. And that's important, because if you were assuming int division as a result of the original type spec for example, then a breaking change means you know it's just failed and can adapt to it.
varin that case means you don't know, and output can be subtly wrong and unnoticed until it's a real problem. I'd say var should be there for temporary storage of Linq results, and nowhere else ..."I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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What is the love affair with var? I see sample code where they do something like
var url = "http://someapi";
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
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I use
varalmost exclusively these days. I started out using it sometimes, but then I started using it more and more. To me, it just seems nice to have all myvarslined up nicely :D Some people thing thevarkeyword isn't strongly typed, but it is (we havedynamicfor that). It's not like JavaScript'svarkeyword. It's only absolutely necessary to usevarwhen working with anonymous types (still strongly typed!).Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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When I moved from VB (where purists dump on var from a great height) to c# where explicit types were mandatory I lost all faith in
var, it became the one thing in VB that I loathed. Now that it has phoenixed in c# I refuse to use it. As forvarcontent changing type and not having to refactor, what a croc of shit, you should HAVE to refactor if you change type or at least check your usage of the variable.Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
VB doesn't have
var? :confused: The equivalent would be:Dim something = "my string"
Which looks fine to me and is still strongly typed, unless Options Strict is Off.
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varcontent changing type and not having to refactorUsing
varis strongly typed so I don't really get what you're saying. Are you thinking ofdynamicorOption Strict Off(which luckily DOESN'T have an equivalent in C# X| )?Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly
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The advantage of var is if
"http://someapi"was a variable or class instance instead of a string literal and you changed its type, you would not then need to refactor the code elsewhere. In your example it's just a case of habit probably, however it's obvious from what is on the right that it's a string. It can sometimes make it harder to debug issues as jumping to the class definition might not always be supported in the IDE you use to debug thevar urlvalue with or have to wait for the IDE to resolve the type that thevaris. That's my take onvar...“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
GuyThiebaut wrote:
The advantage of var is if
"http://someapi"was a variable or class instance instead of a string literal and you changed its type, you would not then need to refactor the code elsewhere."O, that way madness lies; let me shun that!" (King Lear)
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OriginalGriff wrote:
that would be a more natural way of showing what the type
Yup. And as I replied on the Insider News, what I really want is:
var foo = new();In most cases, the compiler should be able to figure out whatfoois by inspecting its usage in the code! :laugh:Latest Articles:
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In most cases, the compiler should be able to figure out what
foois by inspecting its usage in the code!If you turn the compiler into a psychic, be prepared for bad news :wtf:
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
The advantage of var is if
"http://someapi"was a variable or class instance instead of a string literal and you changed its type, you would not then need to refactor the code elsewhere."O, that way madness lies; let me shun that!" (King Lear)
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Tell me about it, I have been coding in Kotlin for an Android application and in Kotlin pretty much every type is inferred. So the code is peppered with
itwhen referring to a property anditcan be pretty much anything.“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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What is the love affair with var? I see sample code where they do something like
var url = "http://someapi";
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
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The C# "var" construct and other such constructs in both C# and VB.NET are merely short-cuts or the usage of system defaults. This makes for very ambiguous code over the length of an application's development. This is why I don't even use the generic list-type and still use array-lists instead. Despite the slight performance decreases (which most will not notice since such constructs often do not contain thousands of objects or items in general), having easy to read strongly typed code makes my applications much more easily maintainable.
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What is the love affair with var? I see sample code where they do something like
var url = "http://someapi";
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
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The last place I worked would fail you in code reviews if you did not use var. Their (ill) logic was something to do with a design pattern, and when Entity Framework would cough on var, they added lines of code to get it to pass instead of just using the correct type.
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What is the love affair with var? I see sample code where they do something like
var url = "http://someapi";
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
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I (almost) only use var for non-production code, when I'm writing from whole cloth and doing initial diagnostics. As the code matures, I replace (almost) all instances of
varwith the actual types. Great way to force you to review and refactor before release. For very long types, I'll usevar, but only when the type is already included in the same location, like a declaration and instantiation. -
What is the love affair with var? I see sample code where they do something like
var url = "http://someapi";
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
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Apart from the obvious (it saves typing and you have a set maximum number of keystrokes you can make in your life), it also allows for alignment which makes things easier to read (we're better with vertical scanning than horizontal scanning - for more see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsHMHukIlJY and also there's just plain less to read!) but also because consuming code is more likely to survive a refactor intact: changing return type to something with similar shape means no consumer changes, renames of classes don't have to alter as many lines of code. Since it's syntactic sugar, it costs nothing at runtime and it's normally one of the first automated fixes I do in a file when I enter legacy code.
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What is the love affair with var? I see sample code where they do something like
var url = "http://someapi";
This feels lazy to me but I am open minded and am curious if I am missing something. Is there some benefit to declaring most things var instead of what they actually are? In the case above, a string.
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I've read that convention is to use "var" when the type of variable is apparent by reading the code. If you printed out this code it would still be pretty obvious that "url" is a string. If you can't tell the type by reading the code then the actual type should be used. It is lazy but if it eliminates some redundancy and makes coding a little quicker than it's a good thing. I personally follow the convention above but I know some people use var for everything.
