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  • C Chris Meech

    Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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    Doug Goulden
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    Be a doting father, concerts come and go, but your daughter will graduate 8th grade exactly once. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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      Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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      Ernest Laurentin
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      No dilema at all, go to your daughter's graduation. I still can remember that my parent [father] didn't come to any of my graduation ceremony (and I was a very good student). Is it good that parents have other priorities than their child? ÿFor the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world. - John 6:33

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      • C Chris Meech

        Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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        dorkshoe
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        Okay..so, who actually cares about 8th grade graduation? I mean I didnt give a crap when I was 13..I still had to go to high school the next year. Does your daughter even want to go? -dork

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          Okay..so, who actually cares about 8th grade graduation? I mean I didnt give a crap when I was 13..I still had to go to high school the next year. Does your daughter even want to go? -dork

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          Chris Meech
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          You raise a valid point. In this case though, I know my daughter is quite the 'keener' and academic achiever. She has even learned sign language because she wants to become a 'gorilla scientist' and continue the work of teaching gorillas to communicate with humans. This has become her life's work since she was six or seven. How many thirteen year old's plan their life this way? I'll be missing the concert :((:((, but her excitement and happiness :):) at graduation should make up for it. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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            I say scalp the daughter and go to the concert... :-O


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            "It is a helpless feeling to be unable to make something so terribly wrong... right."

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            Chris Meech
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            LOL. :-D :-D Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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            • C Chris Meech

              You raise a valid point. In this case though, I know my daughter is quite the 'keener' and academic achiever. She has even learned sign language because she wants to become a 'gorilla scientist' and continue the work of teaching gorillas to communicate with humans. This has become her life's work since she was six or seven. How many thirteen year old's plan their life this way? I'll be missing the concert :((:((, but her excitement and happiness :):) at graduation should make up for it. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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              dorkshoe
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              Hey, thats awesome that she is so excited about learning. I was totally like that too when I was 13 (still am, I guess..) I just know that I didnt like recieving awards because it was another chance for the kids to make fun of the "smart guy" for being a loser. Took me until college to not give dookie about that stuff..Kids are damn cruel. Thats awesome she can be proud of her achievements like that. You done good! hehe. -dork

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                Goto your daughters graduation ceremony. Your daughter won't be in grade eight again but Neil Young will probably do another gig in Toronto! Live to ride. Ride to live.

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                Roger Wright
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                Matthew Lang wrote: Neil Young will probably do another gig in Toronto! That depends on what he contracts at this one.:~

                "Ask not for whom the bell tolls;
                It tolls for thee..."

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                • R RChin

                  Right on:):laugh:

                  There are times in your life where you just have to be a little bit selfish. Am I the only one with this twisted thought, or is this just because I have yet to experience fatherhood?


                  "..Even my comments have bugs!"
                  Inspired by Toni78

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                  Daniel Turini
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                  RChin wrote: Am I the only one with this twisted thought, or is this just because I have yet to experience fatherhood? You'll only really grateful to your parents when you become one. After years of effort, unslept nights and worries, you notice that (most) parents will do everything just to see a smile on the child's face. And I'm no exception to this rule. Kant wrote: Actually she replied back to me "You shouldn't fix the bug. You should kill it"

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                  • C Chris Meech

                    Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                    Jon Sagara
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                    DAUGHTER COMES FIRST

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                    A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

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                      DAUGHTER COMES FIRST

                      Jon Sagara
                      A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

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                      Chris Meech
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                      A shouted reply. Completely appropriate and duly understood. :-D Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                      • C Chris Meech

                        Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                        I'd say go to the graduation, but theres a third choice... Give the tickets to someone and have them setup a live webcam. Take a portable computer and setup some wireless internet at the graduation. This way you can see the concert while looking like a good parent :) Matt Newman

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                        • C Chris Meech

                          Normally, I can just make a decision pretty quick and live with the consequences. But I'm faced with one that's got no middle ground for compromise. So I thought I'd seek out some helpful suggestions from my fellow CPians. About three months ago, I purchased a pair of tickets for my wife and I to go see Neil Young and Crazy Horse perform here in Toronto. The two of us have really been looking forward to this concert and are huge fans. We have just discovered though that the night of the concert, just happens to be the same night as our youngest daughter's grade eight graduation ceremony. Too make matters worse, she is probably going to be winning several awards and plaques and within the next day or two, we will hear whether she has been selected to give the validictory speech. My selfish evil side says go to the concert and my doting father side says go to the graduation ceremony. Unhappily I can not do both. What say you guys and gals? Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                          Robert Little
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                          Since nobody has replied ;P I thought I would. Go to the graduation. It will happen only once. Your daughter will want you to not be part of her life soon enough. Wait for her to make that decision on her own. Congratulations! --

                          "The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln

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                            I'd say go to the graduation, but theres a third choice... Give the tickets to someone and have them setup a live webcam. Take a portable computer and setup some wireless internet at the graduation. This way you can see the concert while looking like a good parent :) Matt Newman

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                            Chris Meech
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                            Good answer. But Paul and I figured out this[^] should work fine. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                              Since nobody has replied ;P I thought I would. Go to the graduation. It will happen only once. Your daughter will want you to not be part of her life soon enough. Wait for her to make that decision on her own. Congratulations! --

                              "The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln

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                              Chris Meech
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                              Robert Little wrote: Since nobody has replied I'm still in awe at all the response this generated. Thanks Robert and to everyone who has added their thoughts. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                Good answer. But Paul and I figured out this[^] should work fine. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                Matt Newman
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                                Chris Meech wrote: this[^] whoa, the first time I tried that link IE crashed. But that would be great idea! Matt Newman

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                                  Matthew Lang wrote: Neil Young will probably do another gig in Toronto! That depends on what he contracts at this one.:~

                                  "Ask not for whom the bell tolls;
                                  It tolls for thee..."

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                                  Blake Miller
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                                  Even if he contracts Lyme Disease or SARS or AIDS, he will still probably be around to do a tour in September... C++/MFC/InstallShield since 1993

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                                  • C Chris Meech

                                    Weiye Chen wrote: She should be feeling the same but the people she wants to share most with aren't present. Also, just imagine how is she going to feel when she sees her friends taking photos happily together with their parents? Oh man, you not only open up the wound, you're pouring salt in it too! I'm about to get the damn scissors out and cut up the friggin tickets. Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. "Microsoft hasn't ever enforced its patents. Apparently they keep them for defensive reasons only. Or, they could be waiting 'til they have a critical mass of patents, enforce them all at once and win the game of Risk that they're playing with the world." Chris Sells Feb 18, 2003.

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                                    Weiye Chen
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                                    :laugh: Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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