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    raddevus
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    I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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      I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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      raddevus wrote:

      I'm not sure what the even does

      In MS Word: It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it! Never really had to perform replace in MS Word before, so no comment there.

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      • R raddevus

        I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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        GenJerDan
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        Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore, becuase because we always type perfectly. Since it is now available...

        We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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        • R raddevus

          I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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          You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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            raddevus wrote:

            I'm not sure what the even does

            In MS Word: It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it! Never really had to perform replace in MS Word before, so no comment there.

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            raddevus
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            Slacker007 wrote:

            It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it!

            Thanks for the explanation of that. I was totally confused about it. Also, it's good to hear an alternative viewpoint. I'm just so shocked that CTRL-F is replaced. It's confusing to an old guy like me. :)

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              You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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              raddevus
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              g_p_l wrote:

              I love consistency

              Indecision is the key to flexibility, you know? :laugh:

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              • R raddevus

                I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                MarkTJohnson
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                They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

                I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                • G GenJerDan

                  Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore, becuase because we always type perfectly. Since it is now available...

                  We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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                  raddevus
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                  GenJerDan wrote:

                  Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore,

                  :thumbsup: :-D Yeah, they should just randomize CTRL- so that each day they do something different. Good for the brain to try to keep up. Very stimulating!! :laugh:

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                    They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

                    I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                    raddevus
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                    MarkTJohnson wrote:

                    They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

                    That totally makes sense now. Microsoft is following and old, crufty dis-used and bloated editor for it's example. :laugh: Can you tell I don't like Eclipse? :laugh: And, yes, I know you are joking.:thumbsup:

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                      g_p_l wrote:

                      I love consistency

                      Indecision is the key to flexibility, you know? :laugh:

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                      g_p_l
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                      B-but which key?

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                      • R raddevus

                        I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Word 2002 FTW!

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                        • R raddevus

                          I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          Ctrl-F is usually standard for find Ctrl-H is usually standard for find and replace. Visual Studio for example, has been this way forever. If anything, MS should be doing the above in word.

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                          • R raddevus

                            I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                            Keith Barrow
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                            Current year and not using grep like a boss :-\

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                              You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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                              GuyThiebaut
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                              Apparently that was something directly to do with Bill Gates The story behind Microsoft Outlook's terrible CTRL + F shortcut | Computerworld[^]

                              “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                              ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                Slacker007 wrote:

                                It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it!

                                Thanks for the explanation of that. I was totally confused about it. Also, it's good to hear an alternative viewpoint. I'm just so shocked that CTRL-F is replaced. It's confusing to an old guy like me. :)

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                                Slacker007
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                                raddevus wrote:

                                It's confusing to an old guy like me.

                                Too be honest, it was confusing to me at first as well. Company pushed out the latest version of office and a lot had changed with little to no warning. Frustrating, I know. I just try to roll with the punches. Also, I am almost 50 myself, so not a spring chicken anymore.

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                                  I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  Wait 'til you swap languages. Mappings for shortcut keys will change. If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work. <edit>Actually, it seems like I can. Question: Has it changed or was it always like that? </edit>

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                                    raddevus wrote:

                                    I'm not sure what the even does

                                    In MS Word: It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it! Never really had to perform replace in MS Word before, so no comment there.

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                                    Except in an Outlook email, where it's a shortcut for forwarding. :mad: EDIT: I should have read the next post! But I still want to vent my :mad:! :laugh:

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                                      Apparently that was something directly to do with Bill Gates The story behind Microsoft Outlook's terrible CTRL + F shortcut | Computerworld[^]

                                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                      ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                      Figures that a savant would have something to do with it.

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                                      The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                                      <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
                                      <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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                                      • G GenJerDan

                                        Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore, becuase because we always type perfectly. Since it is now available...

                                        We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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                                        What do you mean, no one uses ^H anymore? Maybe not to backspace, but as a printable character to tell idio^H^H^H^H people what they really think. :laugh:

                                        Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                                        The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                                        <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
                                        <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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                                        • M MarkTJohnson

                                          They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

                                          I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                                          What, because H(unt makes more sense?

                                          Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                                          The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                                          <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
                                          <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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