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  • R raddevus

    I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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    You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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    • R raddevus

      I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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      MarkTJohnson
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      They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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      • G g_p_l

        You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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        raddevus
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        g_p_l wrote:

        I love consistency

        Indecision is the key to flexibility, you know? :laugh:

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          raddevus wrote:

          I'm not sure what the even does

          In MS Word: It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it! Never really had to perform replace in MS Word before, so no comment there.

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          Slacker007 wrote:

          It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it!

          Thanks for the explanation of that. I was totally confused about it. Also, it's good to hear an alternative viewpoint. I'm just so shocked that CTRL-F is replaced. It's confusing to an old guy like me. :)

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          • G GenJerDan

            Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore, becuase because we always type perfectly. Since it is now available...

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            raddevus
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            GenJerDan wrote:

            Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore,

            :thumbsup: :-D Yeah, they should just randomize CTRL- so that each day they do something different. Good for the brain to try to keep up. Very stimulating!! :laugh:

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            • M MarkTJohnson

              They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

              I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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              raddevus
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              MarkTJohnson wrote:

              They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

              That totally makes sense now. Microsoft is following and old, crufty dis-used and bloated editor for it's example. :laugh: Can you tell I don't like Eclipse? :laugh: And, yes, I know you are joking.:thumbsup:

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              • R raddevus

                g_p_l wrote:

                I love consistency

                Indecision is the key to flexibility, you know? :laugh:

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                B-but which key?

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                • R raddevus

                  I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                  Word 2002 FTW!

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                  • R raddevus

                    I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                    Current year and not using grep like a boss :-\

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                    • R raddevus

                      I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                      honey the codewitch
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                      Ctrl-F is usually standard for find Ctrl-H is usually standard for find and replace. Visual Studio for example, has been this way forever. If anything, MS should be doing the above in word.

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                      • G g_p_l

                        You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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                        GuyThiebaut
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                        Apparently that was something directly to do with Bill Gates The story behind Microsoft Outlook's terrible CTRL + F shortcut | Computerworld[^]

                        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                        ― Christopher Hitchens

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                        • R raddevus

                          Slacker007 wrote:

                          It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it!

                          Thanks for the explanation of that. I was totally confused about it. Also, it's good to hear an alternative viewpoint. I'm just so shocked that CTRL-F is replaced. It's confusing to an old guy like me. :)

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                          raddevus wrote:

                          It's confusing to an old guy like me.

                          Too be honest, it was confusing to me at first as well. Company pushed out the latest version of office and a lot had changed with little to no warning. Frustrating, I know. I just try to roll with the punches. Also, I am almost 50 myself, so not a spring chicken anymore.

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                          • R raddevus

                            I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                            Jorgen Andersson
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                            Wait 'til you swap languages. Mappings for shortcut keys will change. If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work. <edit>Actually, it seems like I can. Question: Has it changed or was it always like that? </edit>

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                              raddevus wrote:

                              I'm not sure what the even does

                              In MS Word: It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it! Never really had to perform replace in MS Word before, so no comment there.

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                              Except in an Outlook email, where it's a shortcut for forwarding. :mad: EDIT: I should have read the next post! But I still want to vent my :mad:! :laugh:

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                              • G GuyThiebaut

                                Apparently that was something directly to do with Bill Gates The story behind Microsoft Outlook's terrible CTRL + F shortcut | Computerworld[^]

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                Figures that a savant would have something to do with it.

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                                • G GenJerDan

                                  Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore, becuase because we always type perfectly. Since it is now available...

                                  We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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                                  What do you mean, no one uses ^H anymore? Maybe not to backspace, but as a printable character to tell idio^H^H^H^H people what they really think. :laugh:

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                                  • M MarkTJohnson

                                    They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

                                    I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                                    What, because H(unt makes more sense?

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                                    • J Jorgen Andersson

                                      Wait 'til you swap languages. Mappings for shortcut keys will change. If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work. <edit>Actually, it seems like I can. Question: Has it changed or was it always like that? </edit>

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                                      Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                      I can't send it to you and expect it to work

                                      I am not entirely sure that's true: Excel files open with german function names on a german system and french function names on a french system. The very same excel files. I never really understood the need of translating the function though...

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                                        Wait 'til you swap languages. Mappings for shortcut keys will change. If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work. <edit>Actually, it seems like I can. Question: Has it changed or was it always like that? </edit>

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                                        raddevus
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                                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                        If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work.

                                        That really isn't great. Never thought of that before.

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                                        • S Slacker007

                                          raddevus wrote:

                                          It's confusing to an old guy like me.

                                          Too be honest, it was confusing to me at first as well. Company pushed out the latest version of office and a lot had changed with little to no warning. Frustrating, I know. I just try to roll with the punches. Also, I am almost 50 myself, so not a spring chicken anymore.

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                                          raddevus
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                                          Slacker007 wrote:

                                          Frustrating, I know. I just try to roll with the punches.

                                          Yeah, it's all you can do. Cause the punches keep on coming. :laugh:

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