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Microsoft, are you Ctrl-F Crazy?

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  • R raddevus

    I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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    You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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    • R raddevus

      I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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      GenJerDan
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      Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore, becuase because we always type perfectly. Since it is now available...

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      • R raddevus

        I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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        MarkTJohnson
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        They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

        I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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          raddevus wrote:

          I'm not sure what the even does

          In MS Word: It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it! Never really had to perform replace in MS Word before, so no comment there.

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          Slacker007 wrote:

          It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it!

          Thanks for the explanation of that. I was totally confused about it. Also, it's good to hear an alternative viewpoint. I'm just so shocked that CTRL-F is replaced. It's confusing to an old guy like me. :)

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            You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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            raddevus
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            g_p_l wrote:

            I love consistency

            Indecision is the key to flexibility, you know? :laugh:

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            • G GenJerDan

              Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore, becuase because we always type perfectly. Since it is now available...

              We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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              raddevus
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              GenJerDan wrote:

              Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore,

              :thumbsup: :-D Yeah, they should just randomize CTRL- so that each day they do something different. Good for the brain to try to keep up. Very stimulating!! :laugh:

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              • M MarkTJohnson

                They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

                I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                raddevus
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                MarkTJohnson wrote:

                They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

                That totally makes sense now. Microsoft is following and old, crufty dis-used and bloated editor for it's example. :laugh: Can you tell I don't like Eclipse? :laugh: And, yes, I know you are joking.:thumbsup:

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                • R raddevus

                  g_p_l wrote:

                  I love consistency

                  Indecision is the key to flexibility, you know? :laugh:

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                  g_p_l
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                  B-but which key?

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                  • R raddevus

                    I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                    Word 2002 FTW!

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                    • R raddevus

                      I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                      Current year and not using grep like a boss :-\

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                      • R raddevus

                        I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        Ctrl-F is usually standard for find Ctrl-H is usually standard for find and replace. Visual Studio for example, has been this way forever. If anything, MS should be doing the above in word.

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                        • G g_p_l

                          You ever tried ^F in Outlook - Forward, not Find I love consistency

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                          GuyThiebaut
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                          Apparently that was something directly to do with Bill Gates The story behind Microsoft Outlook's terrible CTRL + F shortcut | Computerworld[^]

                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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                          • R raddevus

                            Slacker007 wrote:

                            It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it!

                            Thanks for the explanation of that. I was totally confused about it. Also, it's good to hear an alternative viewpoint. I'm just so shocked that CTRL-F is replaced. It's confusing to an old guy like me. :)

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                            Slacker007
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                            raddevus wrote:

                            It's confusing to an old guy like me.

                            Too be honest, it was confusing to me at first as well. Company pushed out the latest version of office and a lot had changed with little to no warning. Frustrating, I know. I just try to roll with the punches. Also, I am almost 50 myself, so not a spring chicken anymore.

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                            • R raddevus

                              I've been using Microsoft Word since at least 1995. I was just attempting to do a Search / Replace and I (of course) hit Ctrl-F (find). Of course, Microsoft in there infinite wisdom has changed that to show some Navigate option thing which is useless (see this snapshot[^]). I'm not sure what the even does. Navigate on a word? What kind of garbage is that? Useless. Search / Replace: Nowhere To Be Found Where is search or search replace? Ctrl-F means FIND in almost every editor known to humans. :wtf: I literally couldn't find it on the Ribbon Bar, in the menus...nowhere. I finally had to search the web to find out how to search / replace[^]. They changed it to CTRL-H -- After 30 years of CTRL-F!?! :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: CTRL-H ??? CTRL-H!!! You Freaking Monsters Changed it to CTRL-H!!! I'm done!!

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                              Wait 'til you swap languages. Mappings for shortcut keys will change. If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work. <edit>Actually, it seems like I can. Question: Has it changed or was it always like that? </edit>

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                                raddevus wrote:

                                I'm not sure what the even does

                                In MS Word: It shows all instances of your search word/phrase, without having to scroll through a 40 page document. I like it! Never really had to perform replace in MS Word before, so no comment there.

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                                Except in an Outlook email, where it's a shortcut for forwarding. :mad: EDIT: I should have read the next post! But I still want to vent my :mad:! :laugh:

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                                  Apparently that was something directly to do with Bill Gates The story behind Microsoft Outlook's terrible CTRL + F shortcut | Computerworld[^]

                                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                  ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                  Figures that a savant would have something to do with it.

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                                  • G GenJerDan

                                    Well, no one uses Ctrl-H to backspace anymore, becuase because we always type perfectly. Since it is now available...

                                    We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB

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                                    What do you mean, no one uses ^H anymore? Maybe not to backspace, but as a printable character to tell idio^H^H^H^H people what they really think. :laugh:

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                                    • M MarkTJohnson

                                      They're just mimicking Eclipse, which uses CTRL-H for it's search.

                                      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.

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                                      What, because H(unt makes more sense?

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                                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                                        Wait 'til you swap languages. Mappings for shortcut keys will change. If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work. <edit>Actually, it seems like I can. Question: Has it changed or was it always like that? </edit>

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                                        Rage
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                                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                        I can't send it to you and expect it to work

                                        I am not entirely sure that's true: Excel files open with german function names on a german system and french function names on a french system. The very same excel files. I never really understood the need of translating the function though...

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                                          Wait 'til you swap languages. Mappings for shortcut keys will change. If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work. <edit>Actually, it seems like I can. Question: Has it changed or was it always like that? </edit>

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                                          raddevus
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                                          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                          If I do Ctrl-f I'll get Bold text. But best of all, formulas in Excel are translated. If I create an excel sheet in Swedish with formulas in it, I can't send it to you and expect it to work.

                                          That really isn't great. Never thought of that before.

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