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  • C Chris C B

    Being:- a). An old git b). Cynical as hell c). Totally paranoid before I let any upgrade to anything happen, I always create a well labelled Restore Point. It's worked so far.

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    honey the codewitch
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    I don't even trust those. I run windows in a VM and I freeze/save state on it. :laugh:

    Real programmers use butterflies

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      Don't update to the newest version if you haven't already. I've done so last week and it's buggy as hell X| It keeps removing my quick access items, especially the "Text Editor" (which has the comment and uncomment buttons) and the Crystal Reports software who shall not be named controls. I'm also getting constant "GenerateTypeCodeFixProvider encountered an error and has been disabled" error, which prevents me from automatically generating classes and other of those quick actions and refactorings. I've seen other errors as well, but I don't know what they were and they aren't as frequent, but annoying nonetheless. I've also had a complete VS crash once or twice. It really takes a bite out of my productivity and I'm looking forward to the next update because it pretty much can't get any worse than this. I updated because I hoped I'd get some .NET 5 and GitHub support, which the Visual Studio team is working on. I'm not even looking at those while VS is bugging me like this X| Apparently, I can't (easily) uninstall a Visual Studio update, or I certainly would've done so. Bad, bad Microsoft! :mad:

      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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      RickZeeland
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      Thanks for the warning, I'm always cautious with updates but I will warn my colleagues who are a bit "trigger happy" :-\

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        I don't even trust those. I run windows in a VM and I freeze/save state on it. :laugh:

        Real programmers use butterflies

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        Sander Rossel
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        I don't even trust those. I buy a new computer and run the updates there ;p

        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          I don't even trust those. I buy a new computer and run the updates there ;p

          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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          honey the codewitch
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          sensible

          Real programmers use butterflies

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          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

            I don't use preview builds of VS or anything. I've looked at those preview features, unticked them all, restarted, and I'm at least still getting the GenerateTypeCodeFixProvider error. To see if you've also got it, in any method, simply enter:

            var c = new MyClass
            {
            MyProperty = 1
            };

            Then stand on "MyClass" and hit ctrl + . (provided MyClass is not an actual class in your project). This opens your refactoring menu and should immediately cause the GenerateTypeCodeFixProvider to encounter an error. None of the refactoring options work after that, even after enabling the provider again.

            Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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            Slacker007
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            I cannot replicate. I followed your instructions and it works pefectly. I selected "generate new type..." dialog opens and I am allowed to generate a new type for MyClass. no errros. if you run VS 2019 as Admin, does that help? I don't run as admin, I was just curious.

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            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

              Don't update to the newest version if you haven't already. I've done so last week and it's buggy as hell X| It keeps removing my quick access items, especially the "Text Editor" (which has the comment and uncomment buttons) and the Crystal Reports software who shall not be named controls. I'm also getting constant "GenerateTypeCodeFixProvider encountered an error and has been disabled" error, which prevents me from automatically generating classes and other of those quick actions and refactorings. I've seen other errors as well, but I don't know what they were and they aren't as frequent, but annoying nonetheless. I've also had a complete VS crash once or twice. It really takes a bite out of my productivity and I'm looking forward to the next update because it pretty much can't get any worse than this. I updated because I hoped I'd get some .NET 5 and GitHub support, which the Visual Studio team is working on. I'm not even looking at those while VS is bugging me like this X| Apparently, I can't (easily) uninstall a Visual Studio update, or I certainly would've done so. Bad, bad Microsoft! :mad:

              Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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              theoldfool
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              Not seeing what you see but I have been getting those "something went wrong, save that ugly mess you are creating and restart Visual Studio" Add a feature, fix a bug and add 3 new ones.

              If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                Not seeing what you see but I have been getting those "something went wrong, save that ugly mess you are creating and restart Visual Studio" Add a feature, fix a bug and add 3 new ones.

                If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.

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                Sander Rossel
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                I got it sometimes, but now I get it consistently. At least it's consistent now, so maybe this is the actual intended behavior :laugh:

                Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                  I cannot replicate. I followed your instructions and it works pefectly. I selected "generate new type..." dialog opens and I am allowed to generate a new type for MyClass. no errros. if you run VS 2019 as Admin, does that help? I don't run as admin, I was just curious.

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  I'm not running as administrator, but I just tried that. I don't even get to the error as VS is hanging while "Gathering suggestions - Waiting for the solution to fully load" when I press ctrl + . :~ After cancelling I didn't see the error, but it didn't work either. Upon trying again I got an empty context menu :sigh: Ultimately, the error showed up again.

                  Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    I don't even trust those. I buy a new computer and run the updates there ;p

                    Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                    Gary R Wheeler
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                    I don't even use a computer, and I shoot salespeople on sight. What the :elephant: am I doing here anyway?

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      Don't update to the newest version if you haven't already. I've done so last week and it's buggy as hell X| It keeps removing my quick access items, especially the "Text Editor" (which has the comment and uncomment buttons) and the Crystal Reports software who shall not be named controls. I'm also getting constant "GenerateTypeCodeFixProvider encountered an error and has been disabled" error, which prevents me from automatically generating classes and other of those quick actions and refactorings. I've seen other errors as well, but I don't know what they were and they aren't as frequent, but annoying nonetheless. I've also had a complete VS crash once or twice. It really takes a bite out of my productivity and I'm looking forward to the next update because it pretty much can't get any worse than this. I updated because I hoped I'd get some .NET 5 and GitHub support, which the Visual Studio team is working on. I'm not even looking at those while VS is bugging me like this X| Apparently, I can't (easily) uninstall a Visual Studio update, or I certainly would've done so. Bad, bad Microsoft! :mad:

                      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                      Rick York
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                      I have had pretty good luck with VS updates in the past but this is the worst one I can remember. Every time I paste text it "formats" it and I can't find where to disable that. It just started doing that after the update and it really annoys me. Another thing - every time I click "find in files" it takes five minutes or so. I have no idea why and this is very annoying also. Curiously, I installed VS19 on two other machines and neither have these problems. They happen only on the one that was updated. I certainly hope a subsequent update repairs this nonsense.

                      "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                        I have had pretty good luck with VS updates in the past but this is the worst one I can remember. Every time I paste text it "formats" it and I can't find where to disable that. It just started doing that after the update and it really annoys me. Another thing - every time I click "find in files" it takes five minutes or so. I have no idea why and this is very annoying also. Curiously, I installed VS19 on two other machines and neither have these problems. They happen only on the one that was updated. I certainly hope a subsequent update repairs this nonsense.

                        "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                        Sander Rossel
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                        Rick York wrote:

                        Every time I paste text it "formats" it and I can't find where to disable that

                        It does that for me too, always has. Can you do ctrl + z and restore the original formatting? Always worked for me.

                        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          I don't even trust those. I run windows in a VM and I freeze/save state on it. :laugh:

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                          Nelek
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                          Imaging the partition with a backup software here

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            Rick York wrote:

                            Every time I paste text it "formats" it and I can't find where to disable that

                            It does that for me too, always has. Can you do ctrl + z and restore the original formatting? Always worked for me.

                            Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                            Rick York
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                            Yes, that's what I have been doing but I don't have to do that on my other two machines. THAT is the really annoying thing.

                            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              Don't update to the newest version if you haven't already. I've done so last week and it's buggy as hell X| It keeps removing my quick access items, especially the "Text Editor" (which has the comment and uncomment buttons) and the Crystal Reports software who shall not be named controls. I'm also getting constant "GenerateTypeCodeFixProvider encountered an error and has been disabled" error, which prevents me from automatically generating classes and other of those quick actions and refactorings. I've seen other errors as well, but I don't know what they were and they aren't as frequent, but annoying nonetheless. I've also had a complete VS crash once or twice. It really takes a bite out of my productivity and I'm looking forward to the next update because it pretty much can't get any worse than this. I updated because I hoped I'd get some .NET 5 and GitHub support, which the Visual Studio team is working on. I'm not even looking at those while VS is bugging me like this X| Apparently, I can't (easily) uninstall a Visual Studio update, or I certainly would've done so. Bad, bad Microsoft! :mad:

                              Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                              den2k88
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                              Oh, ckuf it, I installed it yesterday. Perfect... You using C++ or .NET only?

                              GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                              • H honey the codewitch

                                I don't even trust those. I run windows in a VM and I freeze/save state on it. :laugh:

                                Real programmers use butterflies

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                                den2k88
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                                AFAIK VS2019 license does not allow to be ran on virtualized systems.

                                GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                  AFAIK VS2019 license does not allow to be ran on virtualized systems.

                                  GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                  honey the codewitch
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                                  They can either deal with it or lose a customer. Windows isn't stable enough to run outside a VM.

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                    Oh, ckuf it, I installed it yesterday. Perfect... You using C++ or .NET only?

                                    GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                    Sander Rossel
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                                    Just .NET and mostly C#. It seems not everyone has these issues though, so you may be in luck.

                                    Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                      Just .NET and mostly C#. It seems not everyone has these issues though, so you may be in luck.

                                      Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                      Shao Voon Wong
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                                      To be able to work on your projects today, I suggest you to download the Visual Studio VMs provided by Microsoft. They expire every 2 months whereby you have to download new VM again. [Download a Windows 10 virtual machine - Windows app development](https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines/)

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                                        To be able to work on your projects today, I suggest you to download the Visual Studio VMs provided by Microsoft. They expire every 2 months whereby you have to download new VM again. [Download a Windows 10 virtual machine - Windows app development](https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines/)

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                                        Sander Rossel
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                                        20GB? No thanks... :omg: Besides, I've developed in VM's before and it's really annoying that I have to switch between my desktop/VM or VM/other VM every time I need some other tool X| It would take about a day every two months just to re-install my environment :wtf: Also, I don't have an Enterprise license :)

                                        Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                          20GB? No thanks... :omg: Besides, I've developed in VM's before and it's really annoying that I have to switch between my desktop/VM or VM/other VM every time I need some other tool X| It would take about a day every two months just to re-install my environment :wtf: Also, I don't have an Enterprise license :)

                                          Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                          Nelek
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                                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                                          20GB? No thanks...

                                          It actually is pretty light depending on what it is inside. My own image without Visual Studio and other stuff is already over 15 Gb.

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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