Microsoft thinks my time is worthless.
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That's why they push a DVD worth of updates to visual studio every 3 weeks. And you can't abort an update, even on a metered connection. My time doesn't matter to them. My money doesn't matter to them. My work doesn't matter to them. Thank you Microsoft, for turning your best product into to the best reason I shouldn't give you any more money.
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Sort of like the vaccination debate. "Don't inject me with your fixes!" But, yes, they'll crash your (my) game session by pushing an update to the game even while you're playing.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Sort of like the vaccination debate. "Don't inject me with your fixes!" But, yes, they'll crash your (my) game session by pushing an update to the game even while you're playing.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
My vaccine didn't kill my work for the rest of the day. It was super convenient and less costly for me than Visual Studio has been lately. :)
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I used to do that, and it worked for a while. Eventually the b*****ers managed to force an update through, which screwed up my start menu, my Office toolbars, and effectively bricked my scanner and printer. I ranted about it on here and effectively got flamed for not updating regularly! :laugh:
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That's why they push a DVD worth of updates to visual studio every 3 weeks. And you can't abort an update, even on a metered connection. My time doesn't matter to them. My money doesn't matter to them. My work doesn't matter to them. Thank you Microsoft, for turning your best product into to the best reason I shouldn't give you any more money.
Real programmers use butterflies
Poor MS, perhaps it is a lonely beast, and these crude gestures are the only ways it knows to tell us it needs love i think of my last divine-female-mistress (cat) and her offerings of dead birds, and mice.
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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That's why they push a DVD worth of updates to visual studio every 3 weeks. And you can't abort an update, even on a metered connection. My time doesn't matter to them. My money doesn't matter to them. My work doesn't matter to them. Thank you Microsoft, for turning your best product into to the best reason I shouldn't give you any more money.
Real programmers use butterflies
For the second time in 2 days VS 2019 has decided to fail on opening a current nagware project. (nagware in this context means that I get asked about progress at least 2x daily by the Sr. partner! :mad:) By fail, I mean it starts loading, then hangs...any clicks are pointless..it just laughs at me! :laugh: I got it to work yesterday by turning off a feature preview option, then bravely and foolishly closed the project and tried to re-open...and fail. :| Thanks MS! I'm trying to get some work done here and instead, I'm resorting in desperation to trying the update again after the first attempt failed. Fingers are crossed. So far trying to get the development environment working has cost me over 90 minutes and counting...:mad: At least I have VS 2017 in the very possible outcome that this update doesn't fix my problem. :sigh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
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For the second time in 2 days VS 2019 has decided to fail on opening a current nagware project. (nagware in this context means that I get asked about progress at least 2x daily by the Sr. partner! :mad:) By fail, I mean it starts loading, then hangs...any clicks are pointless..it just laughs at me! :laugh: I got it to work yesterday by turning off a feature preview option, then bravely and foolishly closed the project and tried to re-open...and fail. :| Thanks MS! I'm trying to get some work done here and instead, I'm resorting in desperation to trying the update again after the first attempt failed. Fingers are crossed. So far trying to get the development environment working has cost me over 90 minutes and counting...:mad: At least I have VS 2017 in the very possible outcome that this update doesn't fix my problem. :sigh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
Good luck. I mean it.
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That's why they push a DVD worth of updates to visual studio every 3 weeks. And you can't abort an update, even on a metered connection. My time doesn't matter to them. My money doesn't matter to them. My work doesn't matter to them. Thank you Microsoft, for turning your best product into to the best reason I shouldn't give you any more money.
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All of a sudden I feel a whole lot less embarrassed about the fact that our development environment at work is still Visual Studio 2008.
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I used to do that, and it worked for a while. Eventually the b*****ers managed to force an update through, which screwed up my start menu, my Office toolbars, and effectively bricked my scanner and printer. I ranted about it on here and effectively got flamed for not updating regularly! :laugh:
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That's why they push a DVD worth of updates to visual studio every 3 weeks. And you can't abort an update, even on a metered connection. My time doesn't matter to them. My money doesn't matter to them. My work doesn't matter to them. Thank you Microsoft, for turning your best product into to the best reason I shouldn't give you any more money.
Real programmers use butterflies
That's weird. I'm using VS as well, but I never get mandatory updates, only optional ones (as in "you can click here to update now or just ignore everything as long as you like"), that solves the problem with metered connections. The updates themselves ain't huge either. The ones I'm getting are more CD-sized. Maybe 2 of them, but certainly not a whole DVD worth. When something like this happens with Steam, it's a sign of the installation being FUBAR.
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All of a sudden I feel a whole lot less embarrassed about the fact that our development environment at work is still Visual Studio 2008.
Software Zen:
delete this;It was a good VS. I am now using 2017 and it's good, I am a C / C++ developer so I really don't need many VS updates. C is still the same, C++ may differ in features but C++/17 is already cluttered enough, no need to update either.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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That's why they push a DVD worth of updates to visual studio every 3 weeks. And you can't abort an update, even on a metered connection. My time doesn't matter to them. My money doesn't matter to them. My work doesn't matter to them. Thank you Microsoft, for turning your best product into to the best reason I shouldn't give you any more money.
Real programmers use butterflies
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honey the codewitch wrote:
My money doesn't matter to them
Ow, it does. It's actually the only thing that does.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
And you can't blame the lowly Microsoft worker either. I survived when the C-levels pushed through HR changes from what used to be a total of 20 levels promotion of workers to 100+ levels of career level and promotion. They told us that we would be promoted twice as much as before, but in fact that never happened. It was like The C-levels who decided that had just time-dilated our existence so that we could never ever reach their level again. Check. we are now protected they thought. SO these C-level employees then ran the ship for many years in the shadows for a while, before becoming wholly beholden to the stock price used for their extremely high pay (100's of thousands of stock shares per year) and that of the countless money funds out there who want it to increase all the time. So Microsoft is not really a company anymore, but a zombified company whose only motivation is extracting more money(brains) from you at any cost in order to increase the stock price. So I agree with you. They just want your money :):mad::mad: :omg: :omg:
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For the second time in 2 days VS 2019 has decided to fail on opening a current nagware project. (nagware in this context means that I get asked about progress at least 2x daily by the Sr. partner! :mad:) By fail, I mean it starts loading, then hangs...any clicks are pointless..it just laughs at me! :laugh: I got it to work yesterday by turning off a feature preview option, then bravely and foolishly closed the project and tried to re-open...and fail. :| Thanks MS! I'm trying to get some work done here and instead, I'm resorting in desperation to trying the update again after the first attempt failed. Fingers are crossed. So far trying to get the development environment working has cost me over 90 minutes and counting...:mad: At least I have VS 2017 in the very possible outcome that this update doesn't fix my problem. :sigh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
I had a project that started to not open well in VS2019 earlier this year. Still don't know the real reason why. Other projects were just fine and it compiled in VS2017. "Luckily" my version of Windows 10 had reached end of support but wouldn't successfully update. Windows update had pushed it off for a very long time because of a sound driver problem. I ended up have to wipe the drive and install Windows 10 21H1 and all my other apps. Now the project works just fine again in VS2019. The laptop in general has been running very well and I may be able to get it to last until Windows 10 goes out of support. 5 years down 4 to go.
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Start by switching to JetBrains Rider. Then, once accustomed, switch to Linux. Can you imagine a life without forced reboots? A life where your computer and your software belong to you again?
I will never run linux as a host OS again. It is unstable trash
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That's weird. I'm using VS as well, but I never get mandatory updates, only optional ones (as in "you can click here to update now or just ignore everything as long as you like"), that solves the problem with metered connections. The updates themselves ain't huge either. The ones I'm getting are more CD-sized. Maybe 2 of them, but certainly not a whole DVD worth. When something like this happens with Steam, it's a sign of the installation being FUBAR.
First of all I didn't say they were mandatory. I said they couldn't be canceled. Second, it wasn't my machine. I had no control over what my client, the user did when he started visual studio, 3000 miles away from me I had to end our session for the day, because once the update triggered we were dead in the water.
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I will never run linux as a host OS again. It is unstable trash
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Unstable - yes. Trash - in some ways. Windows is definitely a higher quality OS with a much smoother experience. Only problem is the constant repeating fuck-you from Microsoft. I work on Linux inside VMWare. I make snapshots before applying updates or even installing a new program. It helps...
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Unstable - yes. Trash - in some ways. Windows is definitely a higher quality OS with a much smoother experience. Only problem is the constant repeating fuck-you from Microsoft. I work on Linux inside VMWare. I make snapshots before applying updates or even installing a new program. It helps...
Archlinux is stable enough, but it's not a proper primary OS - it's for embedded and the like. Yeah, I dislike Microsoft too. And Apple. I was almost going to switch to apple because i was tired of running windows, and Apple's operating system is in theory at least, better, but then they ripped off a teenaged orphan I know to the tune of $800 bucks. He worked all summer for that garbage phone. Poor kid. I will never buy a product from them now.
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And you can't blame the lowly Microsoft worker either. I survived when the C-levels pushed through HR changes from what used to be a total of 20 levels promotion of workers to 100+ levels of career level and promotion. They told us that we would be promoted twice as much as before, but in fact that never happened. It was like The C-levels who decided that had just time-dilated our existence so that we could never ever reach their level again. Check. we are now protected they thought. SO these C-level employees then ran the ship for many years in the shadows for a while, before becoming wholly beholden to the stock price used for their extremely high pay (100's of thousands of stock shares per year) and that of the countless money funds out there who want it to increase all the time. So Microsoft is not really a company anymore, but a zombified company whose only motivation is extracting more money(brains) from you at any cost in order to increase the stock price. So I agree with you. They just want your money :):mad::mad: :omg: :omg:
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That's why they push a DVD worth of updates to visual studio every 3 weeks. And you can't abort an update, even on a metered connection. My time doesn't matter to them. My money doesn't matter to them. My work doesn't matter to them. Thank you Microsoft, for turning your best product into to the best reason I shouldn't give you any more money.
Real programmers use butterflies
About a month ago I had an issue with MS updates They kept trying to update a security patch for something that had been updated more than 3 weeks prior to the FAIL update patch. All updates kept failing So after this little fiasco repeated itself 3 times I emailed Nadella MS opened a ticket OK I will play along. Next I was offered a phone call by a live person. He wasted my time fishing around in my Windows 7 machine and said everything looked OK Duh I knew that. So a week later he called back and said he had reached out to the update team and said the matter was fixed. I requested a phone number so I could call in if I had issues Here you go guys 425-635-2970