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  • L Lost User

    Roger, Your new/current hosting service has the TTL set to 86400 seconds. This is unusually high and also means that the next time your address changes you will have up to 24h downtime. I'd recommend lowering it.

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    raddevus
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    Thanks, I set it to 3 hours. Hopefully that is realistic.

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      Thanks, I set it to 3 hours. Hopefully that is realistic.

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      Lost User
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      Yep, that's a good ttl value. :thumbsup: But keep in mind that some ISP/networks will (rarely) ignore the TTL values and hold the cache for an arbitrary time regardless. Welcome to the internet, it's pure anarchy disguised as order.

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        Yep, that's a good ttl value. :thumbsup: But keep in mind that some ISP/networks will (rarely) ignore the TTL values and hold the cache for an arbitrary time regardless. Welcome to the internet, it's pure anarchy disguised as order.

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        raddevus
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        Finally figured out how to get more details. Please help. Why does this show 127.0.0.53 as the Server??? nslookup > set debug > newlibre.com Server: 127.0.0.53 Address: 127.0.0.53#53 ------------ QUESTIONS: newlibre.com, type = A, class = IN ANSWERS: -> newlibre.com internet address = 64.209.142.205 ttl = 1775 AUTHORITY RECORDS: ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ------------ Non-authoritative answer: Name: newlibre.com Address: 64.209.142.205 ------------ QUESTIONS: newlibre.com, type = AAAA, class = IN ANSWERS: AUTHORITY RECORDS: ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ------------

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        • R raddevus

          Finally figured out how to get more details. Please help. Why does this show 127.0.0.53 as the Server??? nslookup > set debug > newlibre.com Server: 127.0.0.53 Address: 127.0.0.53#53 ------------ QUESTIONS: newlibre.com, type = A, class = IN ANSWERS: -> newlibre.com internet address = 64.209.142.205 ttl = 1775 AUTHORITY RECORDS: ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ------------ Non-authoritative answer: Name: newlibre.com Address: 64.209.142.205 ------------ QUESTIONS: newlibre.com, type = AAAA, class = IN ANSWERS: AUTHORITY RECORDS: ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ------------

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          Lost User
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          raddevus wrote:

          Why does this show 127.0.0.53 as the Server?

          That's the server that you are querying. On Microsoft Windows this means that you are asking the local DNS Client (Dnscache) service. The Windows Dnscache service forwards the question upstream and caches the response.

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            raddevus wrote:

            Why does this show 127.0.0.53 as the Server?

            That's the server that you are querying. On Microsoft Windows this means that you are asking the local DNS Client (Dnscache) service. The Windows Dnscache service forwards the question upstream and caches the response.

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            raddevus
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            I'm completely insane so I changed the Nameservers provided by the host at my google domain set up. Previously I used customer nameservers (provided by host) and put them in at google. I deleted those & added 1 record: Host name Type TTL Data newlibre.com.newlibre.com A 1 hour 162.246.23.194 I then saved it and immediately went to nslookup on my local machine and ran it and it INSTANTLY showed up: Server: 127.0.0.53 Address: 127.0.0.53#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: newlibre.com Address: 162.246.23.194 I'm completely insane now. Even though it now works.

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            • R raddevus

              I'm completely insane so I changed the Nameservers provided by the host at my google domain set up. Previously I used customer nameservers (provided by host) and put them in at google. I deleted those & added 1 record: Host name Type TTL Data newlibre.com.newlibre.com A 1 hour 162.246.23.194 I then saved it and immediately went to nslookup on my local machine and ran it and it INSTANTLY showed up: Server: 127.0.0.53 Address: 127.0.0.53#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: newlibre.com Address: 162.246.23.194 I'm completely insane now. Even though it now works.

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              Lost User
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              Great, You can query any public DNS service by changing the target server: Try this:

              nslookup
              set debug
              server 1.1.1.1
              //Query your domain here

              9.9.9.9 is Quad9 8.8.8.8 is Google You can also target your router IP if it also runs a caching dns

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              • L Lost User

                Great, You can query any public DNS service by changing the target server: Try this:

                nslookup
                set debug
                server 1.1.1.1
                //Query your domain here

                9.9.9.9 is Quad9 8.8.8.8 is Google You can also target your router IP if it also runs a caching dns

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                raddevus
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                Yep, I did that and when I targeted the new host's DNS I saw the new IP address. When I would target metronet DNS it would always give me the old one. But then when I added that A record in Google & switched to their default DNS servers then instantly my metronet DNS seemed to update & now I see the proper IP address too. I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state. :rolleyes:

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                • R raddevus

                  Yep, I did that and when I targeted the new host's DNS I saw the new IP address. When I would target metronet DNS it would always give me the old one. But then when I added that A record in Google & switched to their default DNS servers then instantly my metronet DNS seemed to update & now I see the proper IP address too. I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state. :rolleyes:

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                  Lost User
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                  raddevus wrote:

                  I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state.

                  You can debug this. Can you get the SOA record? The text you are pasting has "Non-authoritative answer" which means whatever DNS server you are asking doesn't own the record. Let's find the start-of-authority for your DNS zone. In your nslookup use:

                  set type=soa

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state.

                    You can debug this. Can you get the SOA record? The text you are pasting has "Non-authoritative answer" which means whatever DNS server you are asking doesn't own the record. Let's find the start-of-authority for your DNS zone. In your nslookup use:

                    set type=soa

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                    Slacker007
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                    I wonder if you two keep this thread going like this if it will travel off this monitor and onto my second monitor. sorry for the interruption, please continue.

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                      raddevus wrote:

                      I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state.

                      You can debug this. Can you get the SOA record? The text you are pasting has "Non-authoritative answer" which means whatever DNS server you are asking doesn't own the record. Let's find the start-of-authority for your DNS zone. In your nslookup use:

                      set type=soa

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                      raddevus
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                      nslookup type=soa Server: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53 ** server can't find type=soa: NXDOMAIN Earlier I went to a site which shows my DNS server: Ended up being : Country ISP DNS Server US AS-CMN - Metronet 69.174.129.245 US AS-CMN - Metronet 2603:d010:b001:2::2

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                      • R raddevus

                        I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                        ping newlibre.com
                        PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                        From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                        At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                        $ ping newlibre.com
                        ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                        That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                        Southmountain
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                        which vendor host your website?

                        diligent hands rule....

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                          which vendor host your website?

                          diligent hands rule....

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                          raddevus
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                          Ok, it's a bit confusing i know -- and i've been confused over the past few days. Originally i used smarterasp.net & they were fast but got DDOS'd a few times while I was a member and I was tired of it. I began moving to WinHost -- but then noticed they were 2x - 10x slower than smarterasp. ARgh! I have now moved newlibre.com completely to InterServer.net and they are SUPER fast & great control panel & running my .NET Core web apps with great speed. I'm very happy. If you now hit https://newlibre.com/speedTest[^] you will see the new site & the associated very fast speed.

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                            Ok, it's a bit confusing i know -- and i've been confused over the past few days. Originally i used smarterasp.net & they were fast but got DDOS'd a few times while I was a member and I was tired of it. I began moving to WinHost -- but then noticed they were 2x - 10x slower than smarterasp. ARgh! I have now moved newlibre.com completely to InterServer.net and they are SUPER fast & great control panel & running my .NET Core web apps with great speed. I'm very happy. If you now hit https://newlibre.com/speedTest[^] you will see the new site & the associated very fast speed.

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                            raddevus
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                            And one more thing, I was able to get 1 month for $8 USD on InterServer.net unlimited bandwidth & unlimited diskspace. Very cheap to try out. I'm quite happy.

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                              I wonder if you two keep this thread going like this if it will travel off this monitor and onto my second monitor. sorry for the interruption, please continue.

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                              raddevus
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                              I'm honestly and truly LOLing!!!

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                              • R raddevus

                                I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                                ping newlibre.com
                                PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                                At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                                $ ping newlibre.com
                                ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                                That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                                obermd
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                                Has your ISP (home connection) updated their DNS servers? The DNS Propagation Checker doesn't see all the local ISPs.

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                                  Has your ISP (home connection) updated their DNS servers? The DNS Propagation Checker doesn't see all the local ISPs.

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                                  raddevus
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                                  Yeah, the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.

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                                    I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                                    ping newlibre.com
                                    PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                    From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                                    At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                                    $ ping newlibre.com
                                    ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                                    That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                                    MikeCO10
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                                    Have you tried changing the DNS on your router or computer to something else? Other than that, I'd be looking for a stray forgotten entry somewhere. Is that based on my first-hand experience? I'm not saying :laugh:

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                                    • M MikeCO10

                                      Have you tried changing the DNS on your router or computer to something else? Other than that, I'd be looking for a stray forgotten entry somewhere. Is that based on my first-hand experience? I'm not saying :laugh:

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                                      raddevus
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                                      Thanks for chiming in. For a few hours it drove me crazy. I finally decided to break it however I could and I stumbled upon the answer. the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could but none of it worked. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.

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                                        Yeah, the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.

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                                        obermd
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                                        This is why I have my home network go to the root DNS servers. I don't trust ISP DNS.

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                                        • R raddevus

                                          I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                                          ping newlibre.com
                                          PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                          From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                                          At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                                          $ ping newlibre.com
                                          ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                                          That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                                          Delphi 7 Solutions
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                                          maybe a stupid question, but did you check your hosts file ?

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