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  • L Lost User

    Great, You can query any public DNS service by changing the target server: Try this:

    nslookup
    set debug
    server 1.1.1.1
    //Query your domain here

    9.9.9.9 is Quad9 8.8.8.8 is Google You can also target your router IP if it also runs a caching dns

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    raddevus
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    Yep, I did that and when I targeted the new host's DNS I saw the new IP address. When I would target metronet DNS it would always give me the old one. But then when I added that A record in Google & switched to their default DNS servers then instantly my metronet DNS seemed to update & now I see the proper IP address too. I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state. :rolleyes:

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    • R raddevus

      Yep, I did that and when I targeted the new host's DNS I saw the new IP address. When I would target metronet DNS it would always give me the old one. But then when I added that A record in Google & switched to their default DNS servers then instantly my metronet DNS seemed to update & now I see the proper IP address too. I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state. :rolleyes:

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      Lost User
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      raddevus wrote:

      I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state.

      You can debug this. Can you get the SOA record? The text you are pasting has "Non-authoritative answer" which means whatever DNS server you are asking doesn't own the record. Let's find the start-of-authority for your DNS zone. In your nslookup use:

      set type=soa

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        raddevus wrote:

        I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state.

        You can debug this. Can you get the SOA record? The text you are pasting has "Non-authoritative answer" which means whatever DNS server you are asking doesn't own the record. Let's find the start-of-authority for your DNS zone. In your nslookup use:

        set type=soa

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        Slacker007
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        I wonder if you two keep this thread going like this if it will travel off this monitor and onto my second monitor. sorry for the interruption, please continue.

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        • L Lost User

          raddevus wrote:

          I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state.

          You can debug this. Can you get the SOA record? The text you are pasting has "Non-authoritative answer" which means whatever DNS server you are asking doesn't own the record. Let's find the start-of-authority for your DNS zone. In your nslookup use:

          set type=soa

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          raddevus
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          nslookup type=soa Server: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53 ** server can't find type=soa: NXDOMAIN Earlier I went to a site which shows my DNS server: Ended up being : Country ISP DNS Server US AS-CMN - Metronet 69.174.129.245 US AS-CMN - Metronet 2603:d010:b001:2::2

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          • R raddevus

            I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

            ping newlibre.com
            PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
            From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

            At one point the router is completely down & I see:

            $ ping newlibre.com
            ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

            That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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            Southmountain
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            which vendor host your website?

            diligent hands rule....

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            • S Southmountain

              which vendor host your website?

              diligent hands rule....

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              raddevus
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              Ok, it's a bit confusing i know -- and i've been confused over the past few days. Originally i used smarterasp.net & they were fast but got DDOS'd a few times while I was a member and I was tired of it. I began moving to WinHost -- but then noticed they were 2x - 10x slower than smarterasp. ARgh! I have now moved newlibre.com completely to InterServer.net and they are SUPER fast & great control panel & running my .NET Core web apps with great speed. I'm very happy. If you now hit https://newlibre.com/speedTest[^] you will see the new site & the associated very fast speed.

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              • R raddevus

                Ok, it's a bit confusing i know -- and i've been confused over the past few days. Originally i used smarterasp.net & they were fast but got DDOS'd a few times while I was a member and I was tired of it. I began moving to WinHost -- but then noticed they were 2x - 10x slower than smarterasp. ARgh! I have now moved newlibre.com completely to InterServer.net and they are SUPER fast & great control panel & running my .NET Core web apps with great speed. I'm very happy. If you now hit https://newlibre.com/speedTest[^] you will see the new site & the associated very fast speed.

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                raddevus
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                And one more thing, I was able to get 1 month for $8 USD on InterServer.net unlimited bandwidth & unlimited diskspace. Very cheap to try out. I'm quite happy.

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                • S Slacker007

                  I wonder if you two keep this thread going like this if it will travel off this monitor and onto my second monitor. sorry for the interruption, please continue.

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                  raddevus
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                  I'm honestly and truly LOLing!!!

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                  • R raddevus

                    I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                    ping newlibre.com
                    PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                    From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                    At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                    $ ping newlibre.com
                    ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                    That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                    obermd
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                    Has your ISP (home connection) updated their DNS servers? The DNS Propagation Checker doesn't see all the local ISPs.

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                    • O obermd

                      Has your ISP (home connection) updated their DNS servers? The DNS Propagation Checker doesn't see all the local ISPs.

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                      raddevus
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                      Yeah, the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.

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                      • R raddevus

                        I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                        ping newlibre.com
                        PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                        From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                        At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                        $ ping newlibre.com
                        ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                        That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                        MikeCO10
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                        Have you tried changing the DNS on your router or computer to something else? Other than that, I'd be looking for a stray forgotten entry somewhere. Is that based on my first-hand experience? I'm not saying :laugh:

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                        • M MikeCO10

                          Have you tried changing the DNS on your router or computer to something else? Other than that, I'd be looking for a stray forgotten entry somewhere. Is that based on my first-hand experience? I'm not saying :laugh:

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                          raddevus
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                          Thanks for chiming in. For a few hours it drove me crazy. I finally decided to break it however I could and I stumbled upon the answer. the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could but none of it worked. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.

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                          • R raddevus

                            Yeah, the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.

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                            obermd
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                            This is why I have my home network go to the root DNS servers. I don't trust ISP DNS.

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                            • R raddevus

                              I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                              ping newlibre.com
                              PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                              From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                              At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                              $ ping newlibre.com
                              ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                              That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                              Delphi 7 Solutions
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                              maybe a stupid question, but did you check your hosts file ?

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                                I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                                ping newlibre.com
                                PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                                At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                                $ ping newlibre.com
                                ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                                That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                                MikeD 2
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                                This sounds like you have had a problem in the past and have added newlibre.com to you local hosts file no amount of dns flushing will help if this is what you have done Edit: doh! read the entire thread before replying

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                                • R raddevus

                                  I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                                  ping newlibre.com
                                  PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                  From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                                  At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                                  $ ping newlibre.com
                                  ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                                  That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                                  Mark Starr
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                                  You didn’t mention the HOSTS file. Maybe you stuck an entry in there? The nslookup tool should give you some more info, especially the DNS server being queried. Good luck. :)

                                  Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                                  • D Delphi 7 Solutions

                                    maybe a stupid question, but did you check your hosts file ?

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                                    raddevus
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                                    Thanks very much I appreciate any ideas I could get. No hosts file here at all. It ended up being that I had to switch to Google's DNS servers & then add 1 A record. The moment I set that in the Google Domain setup - i ran nslookup locally & the IP address changed to the proper one. I couldn't believe it did it instantly. It was crazy fast. But the setting shouldn't have been necessary for my setup. Oh well. Painful lesson learned.

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                                    • K kmoorevs

                                      raddevus wrote:

                                      I just type. Most of the time things don't work. So, I just type some more. Then, sometimes I get lucky.

                                      :laugh: :thumbsup: That's being humble! I often visualize myself stumbling, sometimes backward or sideways, but enough forward that it looks like progress. As the years pass, I stumble less! :laugh:

                                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                                      Bruce Patin
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                                      I used to service IBM System\360 mainframes, the ones with all of the lights, switches, and buttons. Sometimes, I would just randomly flick things until I got a reaction.

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                                        I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                                        ping newlibre.com
                                        PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                        From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                                        At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                                        $ ping newlibre.com
                                        ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                                        That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                                        englebart
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                                        Second the etc/hosts file. Did you put a temporary entry in last time you switched the site hosting or when you first stood it up.

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                                        • R raddevus

                                          I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                                          ping newlibre.com
                                          PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                                          From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                                          At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                                          $ ping newlibre.com
                                          ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                                          That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                                          TheBugman
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                                          Did you check your host file? c:\windows\system32\drives\etc open your host file from an elevated command prompt and see if you have an entry for your old IP address and your website. I hope that helps and have a Bless Day!

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