DNS : totally stumped
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raddevus wrote:
I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state.
You can debug this. Can you get the SOA record? The text you are pasting has "Non-authoritative answer" which means whatever DNS server you are asking doesn't own the record. Let's find the start-of-authority for your DNS zone. In your nslookup use:
set type=soa
I wonder if you two keep this thread going like this if it will travel off this monitor and onto my second monitor. sorry for the interruption, please continue.
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raddevus wrote:
I'm still stumped. But that's my natural state.
You can debug this. Can you get the SOA record? The text you are pasting has "Non-authoritative answer" which means whatever DNS server you are asking doesn't own the record. Let's find the start-of-authority for your DNS zone. In your nslookup use:
set type=soa
nslookup type=soa Server: 8.8.8.8 Address: 8.8.8.8#53 ** server can't find type=soa: NXDOMAIN Earlier I went to a site which shows my DNS server: Ended up being : Country ISP DNS Server US AS-CMN - Metronet 69.174.129.245 US AS-CMN - Metronet 2603:d010:b001:2::2
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
which vendor host your website?
diligent hands rule....
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which vendor host your website?
diligent hands rule....
Ok, it's a bit confusing i know -- and i've been confused over the past few days. Originally i used smarterasp.net & they were fast but got DDOS'd a few times while I was a member and I was tired of it. I began moving to WinHost -- but then noticed they were 2x - 10x slower than smarterasp. ARgh! I have now moved newlibre.com completely to InterServer.net and they are SUPER fast & great control panel & running my .NET Core web apps with great speed. I'm very happy. If you now hit https://newlibre.com/speedTest[^] you will see the new site & the associated very fast speed.
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Ok, it's a bit confusing i know -- and i've been confused over the past few days. Originally i used smarterasp.net & they were fast but got DDOS'd a few times while I was a member and I was tired of it. I began moving to WinHost -- but then noticed they were 2x - 10x slower than smarterasp. ARgh! I have now moved newlibre.com completely to InterServer.net and they are SUPER fast & great control panel & running my .NET Core web apps with great speed. I'm very happy. If you now hit https://newlibre.com/speedTest[^] you will see the new site & the associated very fast speed.
And one more thing, I was able to get 1 month for $8 USD on InterServer.net unlimited bandwidth & unlimited diskspace. Very cheap to try out. I'm quite happy.
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I wonder if you two keep this thread going like this if it will travel off this monitor and onto my second monitor. sorry for the interruption, please continue.
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
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Has your ISP (home connection) updated their DNS servers? The DNS Propagation Checker doesn't see all the local ISPs.
Yeah, the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
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Have you tried changing the DNS on your router or computer to something else? Other than that, I'd be looking for a stray forgotten entry somewhere. Is that based on my first-hand experience? I'm not saying :laugh:
Thanks for chiming in. For a few hours it drove me crazy. I finally decided to break it however I could and I stumbled upon the answer. the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could but none of it worked. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.
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Yeah, the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
maybe a stupid question, but did you check your hosts file ?
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
This sounds like you have had a problem in the past and have added newlibre.com to you local hosts file no amount of dns flushing will help if this is what you have done Edit: doh! read the entire thread before replying
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
You didn’t mention the HOSTS file. Maybe you stuck an entry in there? The nslookup tool should give you some more info, especially the DNS server being queried. Good luck. :)
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maybe a stupid question, but did you check your hosts file ?
Thanks very much I appreciate any ideas I could get. No hosts file here at all. It ended up being that I had to switch to Google's DNS servers & then add 1 A record. The moment I set that in the Google Domain setup - i ran nslookup locally & the IP address changed to the proper one. I couldn't believe it did it instantly. It was crazy fast. But the setting shouldn't have been necessary for my setup. Oh well. Painful lesson learned.
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raddevus wrote:
I just type. Most of the time things don't work. So, I just type some more. Then, sometimes I get lucky.
:laugh: :thumbsup: That's being humble! I often visualize myself stumbling, sometimes backward or sideways, but enough forward that it looks like progress. As the years pass, I stumble less! :laugh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"
I used to service IBM System\360 mainframes, the ones with all of the lights, switches, and buttons. Sometimes, I would just randomly flick things until I got a reaction.
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
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I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.
ping newlibre.com
PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net UnreachableAt one point the router is completely down & I see:
$ ping newlibre.com
ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolutionThat I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.
In case that stale record causes other problems down the road.. Is the serial number of the newer DNS update greater than the stale record's? If you manually control the DNS entry (i.e. it's not managed), make sure it was updated too. Also, make sure it is greater than the old one, not just different. If you switch DNS servers and it uses a different encoding scheme than the old one did, it could be using smaller serial numbers. Ignore this if someone else had already suggested it, as I did not read each reply.