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  • M MikeCO10

    Have you tried changing the DNS on your router or computer to something else? Other than that, I'd be looking for a stray forgotten entry somewhere. Is that based on my first-hand experience? I'm not saying :laugh:

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    raddevus
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    Thanks for chiming in. For a few hours it drove me crazy. I finally decided to break it however I could and I stumbled upon the answer. the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could but none of it worked. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.

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    • R raddevus

      Yeah, the solution was really odd. I restarted everything and did all kinds of nslookup & everything I could. Finally, I switched the DNS Servers to Google's & set an A record for my site which points to the new IP Address. The really freaky thing was that ___the instant___ after I changed that in Google's domain settings then I did a nslookup (locally) and the IP address changed in my local ISPs DNS & it started working. I'm not sure how it could've even done it that fast, but it really did.

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      obermd
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      This is why I have my home network go to the root DNS servers. I don't trust ISP DNS.

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      • R raddevus

        I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

        ping newlibre.com
        PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
        From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

        At one point the router is completely down & I see:

        $ ping newlibre.com
        ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

        That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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        Delphi 7 Solutions
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        maybe a stupid question, but did you check your hosts file ?

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        • R raddevus

          I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

          ping newlibre.com
          PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
          From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

          At one point the router is completely down & I see:

          $ ping newlibre.com
          ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

          That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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          MikeD 2
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          This sounds like you have had a problem in the past and have added newlibre.com to you local hosts file no amount of dns flushing will help if this is what you have done Edit: doh! read the entire thread before replying

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          • R raddevus

            I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

            ping newlibre.com
            PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
            From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

            At one point the router is completely down & I see:

            $ ping newlibre.com
            ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

            That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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            Mark Starr
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            You didn’t mention the HOSTS file. Maybe you stuck an entry in there? The nslookup tool should give you some more info, especially the DNS server being queried. Good luck. :)

            Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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            • D Delphi 7 Solutions

              maybe a stupid question, but did you check your hosts file ?

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              raddevus
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              Thanks very much I appreciate any ideas I could get. No hosts file here at all. It ended up being that I had to switch to Google's DNS servers & then add 1 A record. The moment I set that in the Google Domain setup - i ran nslookup locally & the IP address changed to the proper one. I couldn't believe it did it instantly. It was crazy fast. But the setting shouldn't have been necessary for my setup. Oh well. Painful lesson learned.

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              • K kmoorevs

                raddevus wrote:

                I just type. Most of the time things don't work. So, I just type some more. Then, sometimes I get lucky.

                :laugh: :thumbsup: That's being humble! I often visualize myself stumbling, sometimes backward or sideways, but enough forward that it looks like progress. As the years pass, I stumble less! :laugh:

                "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                Bruce Patin
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                I used to service IBM System\360 mainframes, the ones with all of the lights, switches, and buttons. Sometimes, I would just randomly flick things until I got a reaction.

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                • R raddevus

                  I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                  ping newlibre.com
                  PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                  From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                  At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                  $ ping newlibre.com
                  ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                  That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                  englebart
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                  #37

                  Second the etc/hosts file. Did you put a temporary entry in last time you switched the site hosting or when you first stood it up.

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                  • R raddevus

                    I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                    ping newlibre.com
                    PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                    From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                    At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                    $ ping newlibre.com
                    ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                    That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                    TheBugman
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                    Did you check your host file? c:\windows\system32\drives\etc open your host file from an elevated command prompt and see if you have an entry for your old IP address and your website. I hope that helps and have a Bless Day!

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                    • R raddevus

                      I switched my web site to YAH (Yet Another Host) & the IP address changed, of course. I can see the new IP address from everywhere, except my home. Things I've done: I checked the DNS propagation site & the new IP address is seen around the world (DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^]) I made the change yesterday evening & finally gave up and went to bed because I couldn't see the new ip address only from my home. Today I've: I've flushed the local dns (100 times). I've ran the release & renew ip address. Turned off local computer & all network equipment. I've turned off my Linksys wifi router for 20 minutes. I've turned off my fiber cable modem. I've backed up the wifi settings & complete restored them -- hoping to wipe the DNS cache on the wifi router -- I believe that is where this is coming from. While the router is in a rebooting state, (with the cable modem turned off) if I ping I will see the old IP address.

                      ping newlibre.com
                      PING newlibre.com (64.209.142.205) 56(84) bytes of data.
                      From RADNet (192.168.5.1) icmp_seq=17 Destination Net Unreachable

                      At one point the router is completely down & I see:

                      $ ping newlibre.com
                      ping: newlibre.com: Temporary failure in name resolution

                      That I was thinking would be good. Finally, everything comes back and again I ping the site & get the old 64.209.142.205 address. Also, if you check the DNS that everyone sees it is the new one: DNS Propagation Checker - Global DNS Testing Tool[^] This is insanity! I can get to the new site from my work computer when I VPN to it & go to browser. It's only here in my home that I cannot get to it. Insanity.

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                      Chad3F
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                      In case that stale record causes other problems down the road.. Is the serial number of the newer DNS update greater than the stale record's? If you manually control the DNS entry (i.e. it's not managed), make sure it was updated too. Also, make sure it is greater than the old one, not just different. If you switch DNS servers and it uses a different encoding scheme than the old one did, it could be using smaller serial numbers. Ignore this if someone else had already suggested it, as I did not read each reply.

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