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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete. OriginalGriff isn't even in there!

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    raddevus
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    But, your given name is in there, right? Mine is. Also, I was reading down through the list of passwords.txt and I started cracking up. How are some of these "common"? People need their minds washed out!! :laugh:

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      There's 30000 entries in mine! :wtf: The sublist that contains the word f**k is pretty extensive. :laugh:

      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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      raddevus
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      jeron1 wrote:

      There's 30000 entries in mine!

      I know. And some of the common (and filthy) ones are shocking. Shocking that many "12yr old boy" minds think of such stupid things. :laugh: Do not search thru them with the text "lick"! Troll....all you guys are doing that now. :laugh:

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      • R raddevus

        What do you think about the surnames.txt? My surname is not in the list so I guess I'm safe. :) Seriously, though, are last names used in some type of hack? Well, i guess everything is, but didn't know surnames had some kind of special thing associated with them.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        I first learned of the list in VMS because a manager where I was working at the time (1990) wanted to set his password to "ORANGE". :sigh: At a later job, I extracted the four- and five-letter words, cleansed the result, and used them to form pairs to be used as passwords. A precedent had been set to make passwords such as HOUSE$BOAT, and I wanted to automate/randomize it. As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive because not all terminals support lower-case.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          I first learned of the list in VMS because a manager where I was working at the time (1990) wanted to set his password to "ORANGE". :sigh: At a later job, I extracted the four- and five-letter words, cleansed the result, and used them to form pairs to be used as passwords. A precedent had been set to make passwords such as HOUSE$BOAT, and I wanted to automate/randomize it. As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive because not all terminals support lower-case.

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          raddevus
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          #12

          Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

          Did not know. I'm a newb.

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          not all terminals support lower-case.

          Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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          • R raddevus

            I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

            %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

            I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

            english_wikipedia.txt
            female_names.txt
            male_names.txt
            manifest.fingerprint
            manifest.json
            passwords.txt
            surnames.txt
            us_tv_and_film.txt

            What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

            sunshine
            iloveyou
            f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
            ranger
            hockey
            computer
            starwars
            asshole
            pepper
            klaster
            112233
            zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
            freedom
            princess
            maggie
            pass
            ginger
            11111111
            131313
            f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
            love
            cheese
            159753
            summer
            chelsea
            dallas
            biteme
            matrix
            yankees
            6969
            corvette
            austin

            Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

            {
            "description": "zxcvbn data component",
            "name": "zxcvbnData",
            "version": "3.0.0.0"
            }

            I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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            theoldfool
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            #13

            Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

            >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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            • T theoldfool

              Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

              >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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              raddevus
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              I actually use FireFox & Brave and I'm almost as completely agnostic to browsers these days. I discovered this when i was running on a work win10 VM which requires us to use MS Edge. I'm basically agnostic to OSes too, since I run Ubuntu 22.04 desktop to connect to work VMs (win10) and I KVM switch to my MacOS Mac Mini M1. :)

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              • T theoldfool

                Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

                >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                OriginalGriff
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                #15

                For some reason I have to, to view MS documentation on my desktop - the site doesn't work in Chrome (but it works fine on my Surface). Probably a config issue, but gawd knows where ...

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                • R raddevus

                  I actually use FireFox & Brave and I'm almost as completely agnostic to browsers these days. I discovered this when i was running on a work win10 VM which requires us to use MS Edge. I'm basically agnostic to OSes too, since I run Ubuntu 22.04 desktop to connect to work VMs (win10) and I KVM switch to my MacOS Mac Mini M1. :)

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                  theoldfool
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                  I think most of use whatever we got used to, I have used Brave (on my Debian system) and sometimes Vivaldi. I lied somewhat, I have to use Edge when I connect (VPN) to the client;s systems, that is what they have. Herself uses Safari on her MBP. Not aware that it is a browser, it is gmail.

                  >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Quote:

                    zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                    Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    I have this horrible feeling there's this whole dark and raging qwerty vs zxcvbn thing going on that I'm unaware of.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • R raddevus

                      I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                      %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                      I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                      english_wikipedia.txt
                      female_names.txt
                      male_names.txt
                      manifest.fingerprint
                      manifest.json
                      passwords.txt
                      surnames.txt
                      us_tv_and_film.txt

                      What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                      sunshine
                      iloveyou
                      f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                      ranger
                      hockey
                      computer
                      starwars
                      asshole
                      pepper
                      klaster
                      112233
                      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                      freedom
                      princess
                      maggie
                      pass
                      ginger
                      11111111
                      131313
                      f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                      love
                      cheese
                      159753
                      summer
                      chelsea
                      dallas
                      biteme
                      matrix
                      yankees
                      6969
                      corvette
                      austin

                      Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                      {
                      "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                      "name": "zxcvbnData",
                      "version": "3.0.0.0"
                      }

                      I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                      StarNamer work
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                      #18

                      I remember reading that 123456 is the most common password found in pwned databases. So I suspect that passwords.txt is the top 30,000 in order at the time it was created!

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Quote:

                        zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                        Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        Richard Deeming
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                        Waiting for some angry ANSI X4.22-1983[^] fan to point out that their bottom row reads zqjkxbmwv. :-D


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          Waiting for some angry ANSI X4.22-1983[^] fan to point out that their bottom row reads zqjkxbmwv. :-D


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                          OriginalGriff
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                          Are there any left? I though that war was over ... :sigh:

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete. OriginalGriff isn't even in there!

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            DerekT P
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                            #21

                            Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

                            Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                            • R raddevus

                              I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                              %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                              I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                              english_wikipedia.txt
                              female_names.txt
                              male_names.txt
                              manifest.fingerprint
                              manifest.json
                              passwords.txt
                              surnames.txt
                              us_tv_and_film.txt

                              What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                              sunshine
                              iloveyou
                              f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                              ranger
                              hockey
                              computer
                              starwars
                              asshole
                              pepper
                              klaster
                              112233
                              zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                              freedom
                              princess
                              maggie
                              pass
                              ginger
                              11111111
                              131313
                              f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                              love
                              cheese
                              159753
                              summer
                              chelsea
                              dallas
                              biteme
                              matrix
                              yankees
                              6969
                              corvette
                              austin

                              Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                              {
                              "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                              "name": "zxcvbnData",
                              "version": "3.0.0.0"
                              }

                              I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                              maze3
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                              oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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                              • R raddevus

                                I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                english_wikipedia.txt
                                female_names.txt
                                male_names.txt
                                manifest.fingerprint
                                manifest.json
                                passwords.txt
                                surnames.txt
                                us_tv_and_film.txt

                                What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                sunshine
                                iloveyou
                                f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                ranger
                                hockey
                                computer
                                starwars
                                asshole
                                pepper
                                klaster
                                112233
                                zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                freedom
                                princess
                                maggie
                                pass
                                ginger
                                11111111
                                131313
                                f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                love
                                cheese
                                159753
                                summer
                                chelsea
                                dallas
                                biteme
                                matrix
                                yankees
                                6969
                                corvette
                                austin

                                Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                {
                                "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                }

                                I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                jsc42
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                                What is scary is that these are plain text files. Not even a simple attempt to obfuscate them. If my PC is confiscated and the Police search it for naughty words, they will find them in that directory. What is a relief is that none of my passwords are in the list. Sadly, I'm more common than I thought. Both my forenames are in the top 100 male names and my surname just misses out of its top 100 list. How soon will it be before these name lists are used as the dictionaries for a bad version of Wordle?

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                                • R raddevus

                                  Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

                                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                  As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

                                  Did not know. I'm a newb.

                                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                  not all terminals support lower-case.

                                  Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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                                  CodeZombie62
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                                  I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

                                    I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap> :rolleyes:

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                                    BryanFazekas
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                                    Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                                    • M maze3

                                      oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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                                      raddevus
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                                      I saw geekboy in the passwords file too. :-D

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                                        Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                                        raddevus
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                                        #27

                                        BryanFazekas wrote:

                                        being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.

                                        Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it. :) Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are. :laugh:

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                                        • R raddevus

                                          I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                          %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                          I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                          english_wikipedia.txt
                                          female_names.txt
                                          male_names.txt
                                          manifest.fingerprint
                                          manifest.json
                                          passwords.txt
                                          surnames.txt
                                          us_tv_and_film.txt

                                          What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                          sunshine
                                          iloveyou
                                          f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                          ranger
                                          hockey
                                          computer
                                          starwars
                                          asshole
                                          pepper
                                          klaster
                                          112233
                                          zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                          freedom
                                          princess
                                          maggie
                                          pass
                                          ginger
                                          11111111
                                          131313
                                          f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                          love
                                          cheese
                                          159753
                                          summer
                                          chelsea
                                          dallas
                                          biteme
                                          matrix
                                          yankees
                                          6969
                                          corvette
                                          austin

                                          Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                          {
                                          "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                          "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                          "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                          }

                                          I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                          Indivara
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                                          Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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