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  • J jeron1

    There's 30000 entries in mine! :wtf: The sublist that contains the word f**k is pretty extensive. :laugh:

    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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    raddevus
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    jeron1 wrote:

    There's 30000 entries in mine!

    I know. And some of the common (and filthy) ones are shocking. Shocking that many "12yr old boy" minds think of such stupid things. :laugh: Do not search thru them with the text "lick"! Troll....all you guys are doing that now. :laugh:

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    • R raddevus

      What do you think about the surnames.txt? My surname is not in the list so I guess I'm safe. :) Seriously, though, are last names used in some type of hack? Well, i guess everything is, but didn't know surnames had some kind of special thing associated with them.

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      I first learned of the list in VMS because a manager where I was working at the time (1990) wanted to set his password to "ORANGE". :sigh: At a later job, I extracted the four- and five-letter words, cleansed the result, and used them to form pairs to be used as passwords. A precedent had been set to make passwords such as HOUSE$BOAT, and I wanted to automate/randomize it. As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive because not all terminals support lower-case.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        I first learned of the list in VMS because a manager where I was working at the time (1990) wanted to set his password to "ORANGE". :sigh: At a later job, I extracted the four- and five-letter words, cleansed the result, and used them to form pairs to be used as passwords. A precedent had been set to make passwords such as HOUSE$BOAT, and I wanted to automate/randomize it. As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive because not all terminals support lower-case.

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        raddevus
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        Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

        Did not know. I'm a newb.

        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        not all terminals support lower-case.

        Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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        • R raddevus

          I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

          %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

          I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

          english_wikipedia.txt
          female_names.txt
          male_names.txt
          manifest.fingerprint
          manifest.json
          passwords.txt
          surnames.txt
          us_tv_and_film.txt

          What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

          sunshine
          iloveyou
          f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
          ranger
          hockey
          computer
          starwars
          asshole
          pepper
          klaster
          112233
          zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
          freedom
          princess
          maggie
          pass
          ginger
          11111111
          131313
          f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
          love
          cheese
          159753
          summer
          chelsea
          dallas
          biteme
          matrix
          yankees
          6969
          corvette
          austin

          Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

          {
          "description": "zxcvbn data component",
          "name": "zxcvbnData",
          "version": "3.0.0.0"
          }

          I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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          theoldfool
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          Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

          >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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          • T theoldfool

            Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

            >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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            raddevus
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            I actually use FireFox & Brave and I'm almost as completely agnostic to browsers these days. I discovered this when i was running on a work win10 VM which requires us to use MS Edge. I'm basically agnostic to OSes too, since I run Ubuntu 22.04 desktop to connect to work VMs (win10) and I KVM switch to my MacOS Mac Mini M1. :)

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            • T theoldfool

              Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

              >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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              OriginalGriff
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              For some reason I have to, to view MS documentation on my desktop - the site doesn't work in Chrome (but it works fine on my Surface). Probably a config issue, but gawd knows where ...

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • R raddevus

                I actually use FireFox & Brave and I'm almost as completely agnostic to browsers these days. I discovered this when i was running on a work win10 VM which requires us to use MS Edge. I'm basically agnostic to OSes too, since I run Ubuntu 22.04 desktop to connect to work VMs (win10) and I KVM switch to my MacOS Mac Mini M1. :)

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                theoldfool
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                I think most of use whatever we got used to, I have used Brave (on my Debian system) and sometimes Vivaldi. I lied somewhat, I have to use Edge when I connect (VPN) to the client;s systems, that is what they have. Herself uses Safari on her MBP. Not aware that it is a browser, it is gmail.

                >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Quote:

                  zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                  Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  I have this horrible feeling there's this whole dark and raging qwerty vs zxcvbn thing going on that I'm unaware of.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  • R raddevus

                    I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                    %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                    I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                    english_wikipedia.txt
                    female_names.txt
                    male_names.txt
                    manifest.fingerprint
                    manifest.json
                    passwords.txt
                    surnames.txt
                    us_tv_and_film.txt

                    What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                    sunshine
                    iloveyou
                    f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                    ranger
                    hockey
                    computer
                    starwars
                    asshole
                    pepper
                    klaster
                    112233
                    zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                    freedom
                    princess
                    maggie
                    pass
                    ginger
                    11111111
                    131313
                    f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                    love
                    cheese
                    159753
                    summer
                    chelsea
                    dallas
                    biteme
                    matrix
                    yankees
                    6969
                    corvette
                    austin

                    Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                    {
                    "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                    "name": "zxcvbnData",
                    "version": "3.0.0.0"
                    }

                    I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                    StarNamer work
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                    #18

                    I remember reading that 123456 is the most common password found in pwned databases. So I suspect that passwords.txt is the top 30,000 in order at the time it was created!

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Quote:

                      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                      Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      Richard Deeming
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                      Waiting for some angry ANSI X4.22-1983[^] fan to point out that their bottom row reads zqjkxbmwv. :-D


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                        Waiting for some angry ANSI X4.22-1983[^] fan to point out that their bottom row reads zqjkxbmwv. :-D


                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Are there any left? I though that war was over ... :sigh:

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete. OriginalGriff isn't even in there!

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          DerekT P
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                          Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

                          Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                          • R raddevus

                            I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                            %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                            I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                            english_wikipedia.txt
                            female_names.txt
                            male_names.txt
                            manifest.fingerprint
                            manifest.json
                            passwords.txt
                            surnames.txt
                            us_tv_and_film.txt

                            What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                            sunshine
                            iloveyou
                            f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                            ranger
                            hockey
                            computer
                            starwars
                            asshole
                            pepper
                            klaster
                            112233
                            zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                            freedom
                            princess
                            maggie
                            pass
                            ginger
                            11111111
                            131313
                            f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                            love
                            cheese
                            159753
                            summer
                            chelsea
                            dallas
                            biteme
                            matrix
                            yankees
                            6969
                            corvette
                            austin

                            Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                            {
                            "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                            "name": "zxcvbnData",
                            "version": "3.0.0.0"
                            }

                            I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                            maze3
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                            oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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                            • R raddevus

                              I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                              %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                              I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                              english_wikipedia.txt
                              female_names.txt
                              male_names.txt
                              manifest.fingerprint
                              manifest.json
                              passwords.txt
                              surnames.txt
                              us_tv_and_film.txt

                              What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                              sunshine
                              iloveyou
                              f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                              ranger
                              hockey
                              computer
                              starwars
                              asshole
                              pepper
                              klaster
                              112233
                              zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                              freedom
                              princess
                              maggie
                              pass
                              ginger
                              11111111
                              131313
                              f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                              love
                              cheese
                              159753
                              summer
                              chelsea
                              dallas
                              biteme
                              matrix
                              yankees
                              6969
                              corvette
                              austin

                              Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                              {
                              "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                              "name": "zxcvbnData",
                              "version": "3.0.0.0"
                              }

                              I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                              jsc42
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                              What is scary is that these are plain text files. Not even a simple attempt to obfuscate them. If my PC is confiscated and the Police search it for naughty words, they will find them in that directory. What is a relief is that none of my passwords are in the list. Sadly, I'm more common than I thought. Both my forenames are in the top 100 male names and my surname just misses out of its top 100 list. How soon will it be before these name lists are used as the dictionaries for a bad version of Wordle?

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                              • R raddevus

                                Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

                                Did not know. I'm a newb.

                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                not all terminals support lower-case.

                                Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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                                CodeZombie62
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                                I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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                                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                                  Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

                                  I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap> :rolleyes:

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                                  BryanFazekas
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                                  Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                                  • M maze3

                                    oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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                                    raddevus
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                                    I saw geekboy in the passwords file too. :-D

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                                      Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                                      raddevus
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                                      BryanFazekas wrote:

                                      being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.

                                      Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it. :) Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are. :laugh:

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                                      • R raddevus

                                        I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                        %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                        I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                        english_wikipedia.txt
                                        female_names.txt
                                        male_names.txt
                                        manifest.fingerprint
                                        manifest.json
                                        passwords.txt
                                        surnames.txt
                                        us_tv_and_film.txt

                                        What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                        sunshine
                                        iloveyou
                                        f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                        ranger
                                        hockey
                                        computer
                                        starwars
                                        asshole
                                        pepper
                                        klaster
                                        112233
                                        zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                        freedom
                                        princess
                                        maggie
                                        pass
                                        ginger
                                        11111111
                                        131313
                                        f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                        love
                                        cheese
                                        159753
                                        summer
                                        chelsea
                                        dallas
                                        biteme
                                        matrix
                                        yankees
                                        6969
                                        corvette
                                        austin

                                        Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                        {
                                        "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                        "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                        "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                        }

                                        I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                        Indivara
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                                        Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                                          Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                                          raddevus
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                                          #29

                                          Thanks for posting that. I was curious about where it came from. :thumbsup:

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