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  • R raddevus

    I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

    %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

    I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

    english_wikipedia.txt
    female_names.txt
    male_names.txt
    manifest.fingerprint
    manifest.json
    passwords.txt
    surnames.txt
    us_tv_and_film.txt

    What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

    sunshine
    iloveyou
    f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
    ranger
    hockey
    computer
    starwars
    asshole
    pepper
    klaster
    112233
    zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
    freedom
    princess
    maggie
    pass
    ginger
    11111111
    131313
    f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
    love
    cheese
    159753
    summer
    chelsea
    dallas
    biteme
    matrix
    yankees
    6969
    corvette
    austin

    Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

    {
    "description": "zxcvbn data component",
    "name": "zxcvbnData",
    "version": "3.0.0.0"
    }

    I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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    theoldfool
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    #13

    Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

    >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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    • T theoldfool

      Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

      >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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      raddevus
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      #14

      I actually use FireFox & Brave and I'm almost as completely agnostic to browsers these days. I discovered this when i was running on a work win10 VM which requires us to use MS Edge. I'm basically agnostic to OSes too, since I run Ubuntu 22.04 desktop to connect to work VMs (win10) and I KVM switch to my MacOS Mac Mini M1. :)

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      • T theoldfool

        Do I use Microsoft Edge? No.

        >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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        OriginalGriff
        wrote on last edited by
        #15

        For some reason I have to, to view MS documentation on my desktop - the site doesn't work in Chrome (but it works fine on my Surface). Probably a config issue, but gawd knows where ...

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        • R raddevus

          I actually use FireFox & Brave and I'm almost as completely agnostic to browsers these days. I discovered this when i was running on a work win10 VM which requires us to use MS Edge. I'm basically agnostic to OSes too, since I run Ubuntu 22.04 desktop to connect to work VMs (win10) and I KVM switch to my MacOS Mac Mini M1. :)

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          theoldfool
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          #16

          I think most of use whatever we got used to, I have used Brave (on my Debian system) and sometimes Vivaldi. I lied somewhat, I have to use Edge when I connect (VPN) to the client;s systems, that is what they have. Herself uses Safari on her MBP. Not aware that it is a browser, it is gmail.

          >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Quote:

            zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

            Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            Chris Maunder
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            I have this horrible feeling there's this whole dark and raging qwerty vs zxcvbn thing going on that I'm unaware of.

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            • R raddevus

              I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

              %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

              I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

              english_wikipedia.txt
              female_names.txt
              male_names.txt
              manifest.fingerprint
              manifest.json
              passwords.txt
              surnames.txt
              us_tv_and_film.txt

              What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

              sunshine
              iloveyou
              f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
              ranger
              hockey
              computer
              starwars
              asshole
              pepper
              klaster
              112233
              zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
              freedom
              princess
              maggie
              pass
              ginger
              11111111
              131313
              f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
              love
              cheese
              159753
              summer
              chelsea
              dallas
              biteme
              matrix
              yankees
              6969
              corvette
              austin

              Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

              {
              "description": "zxcvbn data component",
              "name": "zxcvbnData",
              "version": "3.0.0.0"
              }

              I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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              StarNamer work
              wrote on last edited by
              #18

              I remember reading that 123456 is the most common password found in pwned databases. So I suspect that passwords.txt is the top 30,000 in order at the time it was created!

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Quote:

                zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                Richard Deeming
                wrote on last edited by
                #19

                Waiting for some angry ANSI X4.22-1983[^] fan to point out that their bottom row reads zqjkxbmwv. :-D


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                  Waiting for some angry ANSI X4.22-1983[^] fan to point out that their bottom row reads zqjkxbmwv. :-D


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  OriginalGriff
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #20

                  Are there any left? I though that war was over ... :sigh:

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete. OriginalGriff isn't even in there!

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    DerekT P
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #21

                    Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

                    Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                    • R raddevus

                      I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                      %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                      I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                      english_wikipedia.txt
                      female_names.txt
                      male_names.txt
                      manifest.fingerprint
                      manifest.json
                      passwords.txt
                      surnames.txt
                      us_tv_and_film.txt

                      What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                      sunshine
                      iloveyou
                      f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                      ranger
                      hockey
                      computer
                      starwars
                      asshole
                      pepper
                      klaster
                      112233
                      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                      freedom
                      princess
                      maggie
                      pass
                      ginger
                      11111111
                      131313
                      f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                      love
                      cheese
                      159753
                      summer
                      chelsea
                      dallas
                      biteme
                      matrix
                      yankees
                      6969
                      corvette
                      austin

                      Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                      {
                      "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                      "name": "zxcvbnData",
                      "version": "3.0.0.0"
                      }

                      I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                      maze3
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                      #22

                      oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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                      • R raddevus

                        I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                        %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                        I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                        english_wikipedia.txt
                        female_names.txt
                        male_names.txt
                        manifest.fingerprint
                        manifest.json
                        passwords.txt
                        surnames.txt
                        us_tv_and_film.txt

                        What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                        sunshine
                        iloveyou
                        f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                        ranger
                        hockey
                        computer
                        starwars
                        asshole
                        pepper
                        klaster
                        112233
                        zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                        freedom
                        princess
                        maggie
                        pass
                        ginger
                        11111111
                        131313
                        f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                        love
                        cheese
                        159753
                        summer
                        chelsea
                        dallas
                        biteme
                        matrix
                        yankees
                        6969
                        corvette
                        austin

                        Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                        {
                        "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                        "name": "zxcvbnData",
                        "version": "3.0.0.0"
                        }

                        I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                        jsc42
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #23

                        What is scary is that these are plain text files. Not even a simple attempt to obfuscate them. If my PC is confiscated and the Police search it for naughty words, they will find them in that directory. What is a relief is that none of my passwords are in the list. Sadly, I'm more common than I thought. Both my forenames are in the top 100 male names and my surname just misses out of its top 100 list. How soon will it be before these name lists are used as the dictionaries for a bad version of Wordle?

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                        • R raddevus

                          Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                          As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

                          Did not know. I'm a newb.

                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                          not all terminals support lower-case.

                          Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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                          CodeZombie62
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                          I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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                          • R raddevus

                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

                            I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap> :rolleyes:

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                            BryanFazekas
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                            #25

                            Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                            • M maze3

                              oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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                              raddevus
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                              #26

                              I saw geekboy in the passwords file too. :-D

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                              • B BryanFazekas

                                Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                                raddevus
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                                #27

                                BryanFazekas wrote:

                                being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.

                                Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it. :) Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are. :laugh:

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                                • R raddevus

                                  I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                  %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                  I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                  english_wikipedia.txt
                                  female_names.txt
                                  male_names.txt
                                  manifest.fingerprint
                                  manifest.json
                                  passwords.txt
                                  surnames.txt
                                  us_tv_and_film.txt

                                  What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                  sunshine
                                  iloveyou
                                  f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                  ranger
                                  hockey
                                  computer
                                  starwars
                                  asshole
                                  pepper
                                  klaster
                                  112233
                                  zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                  freedom
                                  princess
                                  maggie
                                  pass
                                  ginger
                                  11111111
                                  131313
                                  f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                  love
                                  cheese
                                  159753
                                  summer
                                  chelsea
                                  dallas
                                  biteme
                                  matrix
                                  yankees
                                  6969
                                  corvette
                                  austin

                                  Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                  {
                                  "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                  "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                  "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                  }

                                  I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                  Indivara
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                                  #28

                                  Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                                  • I Indivara

                                    Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                                    raddevus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #29

                                    Thanks for posting that. I was curious about where it came from. :thumbsup:

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                                    • D DerekT P

                                      Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

                                      Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                                      dandy72
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                                      Clearly it's not meant to be a very exhaustive list, which leads me to ask...what is this intended to be used for anyway?

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                                      • B BryanFazekas

                                        Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                                        James Curran
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                                        #31

                                        But a regular PC user should recognize Undo, Cut, Copy and Paste.

                                        Truth, James

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                                        • B BryanFazekas

                                          Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                                          sasadler
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                                          Yep, kind of why I think lighted keyboards are pretty useless for me.

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