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  • R raddevus

    I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

    %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

    I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

    english_wikipedia.txt
    female_names.txt
    male_names.txt
    manifest.fingerprint
    manifest.json
    passwords.txt
    surnames.txt
    us_tv_and_film.txt

    What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

    sunshine
    iloveyou
    f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
    ranger
    hockey
    computer
    starwars
    asshole
    pepper
    klaster
    112233
    zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
    freedom
    princess
    maggie
    pass
    ginger
    11111111
    131313
    f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
    love
    cheese
    159753
    summer
    chelsea
    dallas
    biteme
    matrix
    yankees
    6969
    corvette
    austin

    Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

    {
    "description": "zxcvbn data component",
    "name": "zxcvbnData",
    "version": "3.0.0.0"
    }

    I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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    jsc42
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    What is scary is that these are plain text files. Not even a simple attempt to obfuscate them. If my PC is confiscated and the Police search it for naughty words, they will find them in that directory. What is a relief is that none of my passwords are in the list. Sadly, I'm more common than I thought. Both my forenames are in the top 100 male names and my surname just misses out of its top 100 list. How soon will it be before these name lists are used as the dictionaries for a bad version of Wordle?

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    • R raddevus

      Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

      As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

      Did not know. I'm a newb.

      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

      not all terminals support lower-case.

      Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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      CodeZombie62
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      I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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      • R raddevus

        OriginalGriff wrote:

        Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

        I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap> :rolleyes:

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        BryanFazekas
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        Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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          oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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          raddevus
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          I saw geekboy in the passwords file too. :-D

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          • B BryanFazekas

            Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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            raddevus
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            #27

            BryanFazekas wrote:

            being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.

            Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it. :) Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are. :laugh:

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            • R raddevus

              I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

              %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

              I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

              english_wikipedia.txt
              female_names.txt
              male_names.txt
              manifest.fingerprint
              manifest.json
              passwords.txt
              surnames.txt
              us_tv_and_film.txt

              What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

              sunshine
              iloveyou
              f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
              ranger
              hockey
              computer
              starwars
              asshole
              pepper
              klaster
              112233
              zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
              freedom
              princess
              maggie
              pass
              ginger
              11111111
              131313
              f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
              love
              cheese
              159753
              summer
              chelsea
              dallas
              biteme
              matrix
              yankees
              6969
              corvette
              austin

              Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

              {
              "description": "zxcvbn data component",
              "name": "zxcvbnData",
              "version": "3.0.0.0"
              }

              I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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              Indivara
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              Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                raddevus
                wrote on last edited by
                #29

                Thanks for posting that. I was curious about where it came from. :thumbsup:

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                  Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

                  Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                  dandy72
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                  Clearly it's not meant to be a very exhaustive list, which leads me to ask...what is this intended to be used for anyway?

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                  • B BryanFazekas

                    Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                    James Curran
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                    #31

                    But a regular PC user should recognize Undo, Cut, Copy and Paste.

                    Truth, James

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                    • B BryanFazekas

                      Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                      sasadler
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                      Yep, kind of why I think lighted keyboards are pretty useless for me.

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                      • R raddevus

                        I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                        %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                        I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                        english_wikipedia.txt
                        female_names.txt
                        male_names.txt
                        manifest.fingerprint
                        manifest.json
                        passwords.txt
                        surnames.txt
                        us_tv_and_film.txt

                        What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                        sunshine
                        iloveyou
                        f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                        ranger
                        hockey
                        computer
                        starwars
                        asshole
                        pepper
                        klaster
                        112233
                        zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                        freedom
                        princess
                        maggie
                        pass
                        ginger
                        11111111
                        131313
                        f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                        love
                        cheese
                        159753
                        summer
                        chelsea
                        dallas
                        biteme
                        matrix
                        yankees
                        6969
                        corvette
                        austin

                        Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                        {
                        "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                        "name": "zxcvbnData",
                        "version": "3.0.0.0"
                        }

                        I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                        sasadler
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                        #33

                        I only use Edge on one website. For some reason I can't sign into the website without using Edge, both Vivaldi and Firefox don't work on that particular site.

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                        • S sasadler

                          I only use Edge on one website. For some reason I can't sign into the website without using Edge, both Vivaldi and Firefox don't work on that particular site.

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                          raddevus
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                          #34

                          sasadler wrote:

                          I only use Edge on one website.

                          I have a healthcare site that will not work on FireFox. When I attempt to login, it tells me that the ID doesn't exist. But that isn't true, of course. It's very odd that it tells me a totally incorrect error and doesn't just fail some other way. I use Brave (chrome-based) and then the site works perfectly fine. Edge is chrome-based also.

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                          • R raddevus

                            I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                            %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                            I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                            english_wikipedia.txt
                            female_names.txt
                            male_names.txt
                            manifest.fingerprint
                            manifest.json
                            passwords.txt
                            surnames.txt
                            us_tv_and_film.txt

                            What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                            sunshine
                            iloveyou
                            f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                            ranger
                            hockey
                            computer
                            starwars
                            asshole
                            pepper
                            klaster
                            112233
                            zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                            freedom
                            princess
                            maggie
                            pass
                            ginger
                            11111111
                            131313
                            f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                            love
                            cheese
                            159753
                            summer
                            chelsea
                            dallas
                            biteme
                            matrix
                            yankees
                            6969
                            corvette
                            austin

                            Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                            {
                            "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                            "name": "zxcvbnData",
                            "version": "3.0.0.0"
                            }

                            I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                            jurluk
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                            #35

                            Nothing particularly secret there. Just one google search away: https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn

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                            • R raddevus

                              sasadler wrote:

                              I only use Edge on one website.

                              I have a healthcare site that will not work on FireFox. When I attempt to login, it tells me that the ID doesn't exist. But that isn't true, of course. It's very odd that it tells me a totally incorrect error and doesn't just fail some other way. I use Brave (chrome-based) and then the site works perfectly fine. Edge is chrome-based also.

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                              sasadler
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                              #36

                              Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work.

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                                Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work.

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                                raddevus
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                                #37

                                sasadler wrote:

                                Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work

                                Interesting. I wonder what it is on these browser that fails.

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                                • R raddevus

                                  I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                  %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                  I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                  english_wikipedia.txt
                                  female_names.txt
                                  male_names.txt
                                  manifest.fingerprint
                                  manifest.json
                                  passwords.txt
                                  surnames.txt
                                  us_tv_and_film.txt

                                  What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                  sunshine
                                  iloveyou
                                  f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                  ranger
                                  hockey
                                  computer
                                  starwars
                                  asshole
                                  pepper
                                  klaster
                                  112233
                                  zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                  freedom
                                  princess
                                  maggie
                                  pass
                                  ginger
                                  11111111
                                  131313
                                  f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                  love
                                  cheese
                                  159753
                                  summer
                                  chelsea
                                  dallas
                                  biteme
                                  matrix
                                  yankees
                                  6969
                                  corvette
                                  austin

                                  Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                  {
                                  "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                  "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                  "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                  }

                                  I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                  Nelek
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                                  #38

                                  raddevus wrote:

                                  zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                                  Qwerty was already taken... so they just went two rows below.... :rolleyes:

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  • R raddevus

                                    I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                    %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                    I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                    english_wikipedia.txt
                                    female_names.txt
                                    male_names.txt
                                    manifest.fingerprint
                                    manifest.json
                                    passwords.txt
                                    surnames.txt
                                    us_tv_and_film.txt

                                    What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                    sunshine
                                    iloveyou
                                    f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                    ranger
                                    hockey
                                    computer
                                    starwars
                                    asshole
                                    pepper
                                    klaster
                                    112233
                                    zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                    freedom
                                    princess
                                    maggie
                                    pass
                                    ginger
                                    11111111
                                    131313
                                    f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                    love
                                    cheese
                                    159753
                                    summer
                                    chelsea
                                    dallas
                                    biteme
                                    matrix
                                    yankees
                                    6969
                                    corvette
                                    austin

                                    Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                    {
                                    "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                    "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                    "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                    }

                                    I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                    Daniel Wilianto
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                                    Are they using those to warn user when they picked a common password which is among those 30k? The real question is, why aren't those common password saved in a condition which is sorted alphabetically? What a waste of computing resource.

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                                    • C CodeZombie62

                                      I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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                                      Alister Morton
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                                      The (mechanical) teletype terminals I used at school in the 70s only had upper case. The delete character was shifted O and it was a standing joke to say "Oh-shift ;I've mistyped!"

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete. OriginalGriff isn't even in there!

                                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                        Alister Morton
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                                        A very incomplete list indeed.

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