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  • R raddevus

    Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

    Did not know. I'm a newb.

    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    not all terminals support lower-case.

    Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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    CodeZombie62
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    I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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    • R raddevus

      OriginalGriff wrote:

      Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

      I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap> :rolleyes:

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      BryanFazekas
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      Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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      • M maze3

        oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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        raddevus
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        I saw geekboy in the passwords file too. :-D

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        • B BryanFazekas

          Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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          raddevus
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          BryanFazekas wrote:

          being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.

          Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it. :) Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are. :laugh:

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          • R raddevus

            I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

            %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

            I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

            english_wikipedia.txt
            female_names.txt
            male_names.txt
            manifest.fingerprint
            manifest.json
            passwords.txt
            surnames.txt
            us_tv_and_film.txt

            What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

            sunshine
            iloveyou
            f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
            ranger
            hockey
            computer
            starwars
            asshole
            pepper
            klaster
            112233
            zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
            freedom
            princess
            maggie
            pass
            ginger
            11111111
            131313
            f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
            love
            cheese
            159753
            summer
            chelsea
            dallas
            biteme
            matrix
            yankees
            6969
            corvette
            austin

            Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

            {
            "description": "zxcvbn data component",
            "name": "zxcvbnData",
            "version": "3.0.0.0"
            }

            I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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            Indivara
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            Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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            • I Indivara

              Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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              raddevus
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              Thanks for posting that. I was curious about where it came from. :thumbsup:

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              • D DerekT P

                Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

                Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                dandy72
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                Clearly it's not meant to be a very exhaustive list, which leads me to ask...what is this intended to be used for anyway?

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                • B BryanFazekas

                  Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                  James Curran
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                  But a regular PC user should recognize Undo, Cut, Copy and Paste.

                  Truth, James

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                  • B BryanFazekas

                    Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                    sasadler
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                    Yep, kind of why I think lighted keyboards are pretty useless for me.

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                    • R raddevus

                      I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                      %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                      I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                      english_wikipedia.txt
                      female_names.txt
                      male_names.txt
                      manifest.fingerprint
                      manifest.json
                      passwords.txt
                      surnames.txt
                      us_tv_and_film.txt

                      What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                      sunshine
                      iloveyou
                      f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                      ranger
                      hockey
                      computer
                      starwars
                      asshole
                      pepper
                      klaster
                      112233
                      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                      freedom
                      princess
                      maggie
                      pass
                      ginger
                      11111111
                      131313
                      f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                      love
                      cheese
                      159753
                      summer
                      chelsea
                      dallas
                      biteme
                      matrix
                      yankees
                      6969
                      corvette
                      austin

                      Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                      {
                      "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                      "name": "zxcvbnData",
                      "version": "3.0.0.0"
                      }

                      I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                      sasadler
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                      I only use Edge on one website. For some reason I can't sign into the website without using Edge, both Vivaldi and Firefox don't work on that particular site.

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                      • S sasadler

                        I only use Edge on one website. For some reason I can't sign into the website without using Edge, both Vivaldi and Firefox don't work on that particular site.

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                        raddevus
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                        sasadler wrote:

                        I only use Edge on one website.

                        I have a healthcare site that will not work on FireFox. When I attempt to login, it tells me that the ID doesn't exist. But that isn't true, of course. It's very odd that it tells me a totally incorrect error and doesn't just fail some other way. I use Brave (chrome-based) and then the site works perfectly fine. Edge is chrome-based also.

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                        • R raddevus

                          I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                          %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                          I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                          english_wikipedia.txt
                          female_names.txt
                          male_names.txt
                          manifest.fingerprint
                          manifest.json
                          passwords.txt
                          surnames.txt
                          us_tv_and_film.txt

                          What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                          sunshine
                          iloveyou
                          f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                          ranger
                          hockey
                          computer
                          starwars
                          asshole
                          pepper
                          klaster
                          112233
                          zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                          freedom
                          princess
                          maggie
                          pass
                          ginger
                          11111111
                          131313
                          f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                          love
                          cheese
                          159753
                          summer
                          chelsea
                          dallas
                          biteme
                          matrix
                          yankees
                          6969
                          corvette
                          austin

                          Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                          {
                          "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                          "name": "zxcvbnData",
                          "version": "3.0.0.0"
                          }

                          I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                          jurluk
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                          Nothing particularly secret there. Just one google search away: https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn

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                          • R raddevus

                            sasadler wrote:

                            I only use Edge on one website.

                            I have a healthcare site that will not work on FireFox. When I attempt to login, it tells me that the ID doesn't exist. But that isn't true, of course. It's very odd that it tells me a totally incorrect error and doesn't just fail some other way. I use Brave (chrome-based) and then the site works perfectly fine. Edge is chrome-based also.

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                            sasadler
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                            Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work.

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                              Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work.

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                              raddevus
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                              sasadler wrote:

                              Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work

                              Interesting. I wonder what it is on these browser that fails.

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                              • R raddevus

                                I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                english_wikipedia.txt
                                female_names.txt
                                male_names.txt
                                manifest.fingerprint
                                manifest.json
                                passwords.txt
                                surnames.txt
                                us_tv_and_film.txt

                                What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                sunshine
                                iloveyou
                                f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                ranger
                                hockey
                                computer
                                starwars
                                asshole
                                pepper
                                klaster
                                112233
                                zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                freedom
                                princess
                                maggie
                                pass
                                ginger
                                11111111
                                131313
                                f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                love
                                cheese
                                159753
                                summer
                                chelsea
                                dallas
                                biteme
                                matrix
                                yankees
                                6969
                                corvette
                                austin

                                Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                {
                                "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                }

                                I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                Nelek
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                                raddevus wrote:

                                zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                                Qwerty was already taken... so they just went two rows below.... :rolleyes:

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                • R raddevus

                                  I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                  %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                  I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                  english_wikipedia.txt
                                  female_names.txt
                                  male_names.txt
                                  manifest.fingerprint
                                  manifest.json
                                  passwords.txt
                                  surnames.txt
                                  us_tv_and_film.txt

                                  What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                  sunshine
                                  iloveyou
                                  f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                  ranger
                                  hockey
                                  computer
                                  starwars
                                  asshole
                                  pepper
                                  klaster
                                  112233
                                  zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                  freedom
                                  princess
                                  maggie
                                  pass
                                  ginger
                                  11111111
                                  131313
                                  f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                  love
                                  cheese
                                  159753
                                  summer
                                  chelsea
                                  dallas
                                  biteme
                                  matrix
                                  yankees
                                  6969
                                  corvette
                                  austin

                                  Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                  {
                                  "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                  "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                  "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                  }

                                  I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                  Daniel Wilianto
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                                  Are they using those to warn user when they picked a common password which is among those 30k? The real question is, why aren't those common password saved in a condition which is sorted alphabetically? What a waste of computing resource.

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                                  • C CodeZombie62

                                    I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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                                    Alister Morton
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                                    The (mechanical) teletype terminals I used at school in the 70s only had upper case. The delete character was shifted O and it was a standing joke to say "Oh-shift ;I've mistyped!"

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete. OriginalGriff isn't even in there!

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                                      Alister Morton
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                                      A very incomplete list indeed.

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