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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete. OriginalGriff isn't even in there!

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    DerekT P
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    Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

    Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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    • R raddevus

      I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

      %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

      I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

      english_wikipedia.txt
      female_names.txt
      male_names.txt
      manifest.fingerprint
      manifest.json
      passwords.txt
      surnames.txt
      us_tv_and_film.txt

      What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

      sunshine
      iloveyou
      f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
      ranger
      hockey
      computer
      starwars
      asshole
      pepper
      klaster
      112233
      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
      freedom
      princess
      maggie
      pass
      ginger
      11111111
      131313
      f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
      love
      cheese
      159753
      summer
      chelsea
      dallas
      biteme
      matrix
      yankees
      6969
      corvette
      austin

      Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

      {
      "description": "zxcvbn data component",
      "name": "zxcvbnData",
      "version": "3.0.0.0"
      }

      I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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      maze3
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      #22

      oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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      • R raddevus

        I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

        %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

        I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

        english_wikipedia.txt
        female_names.txt
        male_names.txt
        manifest.fingerprint
        manifest.json
        passwords.txt
        surnames.txt
        us_tv_and_film.txt

        What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

        sunshine
        iloveyou
        f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
        ranger
        hockey
        computer
        starwars
        asshole
        pepper
        klaster
        112233
        zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
        freedom
        princess
        maggie
        pass
        ginger
        11111111
        131313
        f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
        love
        cheese
        159753
        summer
        chelsea
        dallas
        biteme
        matrix
        yankees
        6969
        corvette
        austin

        Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

        {
        "description": "zxcvbn data component",
        "name": "zxcvbnData",
        "version": "3.0.0.0"
        }

        I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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        jsc42
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        #23

        What is scary is that these are plain text files. Not even a simple attempt to obfuscate them. If my PC is confiscated and the Police search it for naughty words, they will find them in that directory. What is a relief is that none of my passwords are in the list. Sadly, I'm more common than I thought. Both my forenames are in the top 100 male names and my surname just misses out of its top 100 list. How soon will it be before these name lists are used as the dictionaries for a bad version of Wordle?

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        • R raddevus

          Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

          Did not know. I'm a newb.

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          not all terminals support lower-case.

          Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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          CodeZombie62
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          I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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          • R raddevus

            OriginalGriff wrote:

            Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

            I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap> :rolleyes:

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            BryanFazekas
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            Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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              oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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              raddevus
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              #26

              I saw geekboy in the passwords file too. :-D

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              • B BryanFazekas

                Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                raddevus
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                #27

                BryanFazekas wrote:

                being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.

                Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it. :) Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are. :laugh:

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                • R raddevus

                  I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                  %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                  I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                  english_wikipedia.txt
                  female_names.txt
                  male_names.txt
                  manifest.fingerprint
                  manifest.json
                  passwords.txt
                  surnames.txt
                  us_tv_and_film.txt

                  What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                  sunshine
                  iloveyou
                  f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                  ranger
                  hockey
                  computer
                  starwars
                  asshole
                  pepper
                  klaster
                  112233
                  zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                  freedom
                  princess
                  maggie
                  pass
                  ginger
                  11111111
                  131313
                  f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                  love
                  cheese
                  159753
                  summer
                  chelsea
                  dallas
                  biteme
                  matrix
                  yankees
                  6969
                  corvette
                  austin

                  Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                  {
                  "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                  "name": "zxcvbnData",
                  "version": "3.0.0.0"
                  }

                  I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                  Indivara
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                  #28

                  Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                  • I Indivara

                    Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                    raddevus
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                    #29

                    Thanks for posting that. I was curious about where it came from. :thumbsup:

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                    • D DerekT P

                      Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

                      Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                      dandy72
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                      Clearly it's not meant to be a very exhaustive list, which leads me to ask...what is this intended to be used for anyway?

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                      • B BryanFazekas

                        Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                        James Curran
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                        #31

                        But a regular PC user should recognize Undo, Cut, Copy and Paste.

                        Truth, James

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                        • B BryanFazekas

                          Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                          sasadler
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                          Yep, kind of why I think lighted keyboards are pretty useless for me.

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                          • R raddevus

                            I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                            %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                            I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                            english_wikipedia.txt
                            female_names.txt
                            male_names.txt
                            manifest.fingerprint
                            manifest.json
                            passwords.txt
                            surnames.txt
                            us_tv_and_film.txt

                            What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                            sunshine
                            iloveyou
                            f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                            ranger
                            hockey
                            computer
                            starwars
                            asshole
                            pepper
                            klaster
                            112233
                            zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                            freedom
                            princess
                            maggie
                            pass
                            ginger
                            11111111
                            131313
                            f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                            love
                            cheese
                            159753
                            summer
                            chelsea
                            dallas
                            biteme
                            matrix
                            yankees
                            6969
                            corvette
                            austin

                            Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                            {
                            "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                            "name": "zxcvbnData",
                            "version": "3.0.0.0"
                            }

                            I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                            sasadler
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                            #33

                            I only use Edge on one website. For some reason I can't sign into the website without using Edge, both Vivaldi and Firefox don't work on that particular site.

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                            • S sasadler

                              I only use Edge on one website. For some reason I can't sign into the website without using Edge, both Vivaldi and Firefox don't work on that particular site.

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                              raddevus
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                              #34

                              sasadler wrote:

                              I only use Edge on one website.

                              I have a healthcare site that will not work on FireFox. When I attempt to login, it tells me that the ID doesn't exist. But that isn't true, of course. It's very odd that it tells me a totally incorrect error and doesn't just fail some other way. I use Brave (chrome-based) and then the site works perfectly fine. Edge is chrome-based also.

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                              • R raddevus

                                I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                english_wikipedia.txt
                                female_names.txt
                                male_names.txt
                                manifest.fingerprint
                                manifest.json
                                passwords.txt
                                surnames.txt
                                us_tv_and_film.txt

                                What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                sunshine
                                iloveyou
                                f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                ranger
                                hockey
                                computer
                                starwars
                                asshole
                                pepper
                                klaster
                                112233
                                zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                freedom
                                princess
                                maggie
                                pass
                                ginger
                                11111111
                                131313
                                f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                love
                                cheese
                                159753
                                summer
                                chelsea
                                dallas
                                biteme
                                matrix
                                yankees
                                6969
                                corvette
                                austin

                                Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                {
                                "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                }

                                I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                jurluk
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                                #35

                                Nothing particularly secret there. Just one google search away: https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn

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                                • R raddevus

                                  sasadler wrote:

                                  I only use Edge on one website.

                                  I have a healthcare site that will not work on FireFox. When I attempt to login, it tells me that the ID doesn't exist. But that isn't true, of course. It's very odd that it tells me a totally incorrect error and doesn't just fail some other way. I use Brave (chrome-based) and then the site works perfectly fine. Edge is chrome-based also.

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                                  sasadler
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                                  #36

                                  Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work.

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                                  • S sasadler

                                    Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work.

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                                    raddevus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #37

                                    sasadler wrote:

                                    Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work

                                    Interesting. I wonder what it is on these browser that fails.

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                                    • R raddevus

                                      I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                      %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                      I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                      english_wikipedia.txt
                                      female_names.txt
                                      male_names.txt
                                      manifest.fingerprint
                                      manifest.json
                                      passwords.txt
                                      surnames.txt
                                      us_tv_and_film.txt

                                      What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                      sunshine
                                      iloveyou
                                      f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                      ranger
                                      hockey
                                      computer
                                      starwars
                                      asshole
                                      pepper
                                      klaster
                                      112233
                                      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                      freedom
                                      princess
                                      maggie
                                      pass
                                      ginger
                                      11111111
                                      131313
                                      f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                      love
                                      cheese
                                      159753
                                      summer
                                      chelsea
                                      dallas
                                      biteme
                                      matrix
                                      yankees
                                      6969
                                      corvette
                                      austin

                                      Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                      {
                                      "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                      "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                      "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                      }

                                      I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                      Nelek
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #38

                                      raddevus wrote:

                                      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                                      Qwerty was already taken... so they just went two rows below.... :rolleyes:

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      • R raddevus

                                        I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                        %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                        I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                        english_wikipedia.txt
                                        female_names.txt
                                        male_names.txt
                                        manifest.fingerprint
                                        manifest.json
                                        passwords.txt
                                        surnames.txt
                                        us_tv_and_film.txt

                                        What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                        sunshine
                                        iloveyou
                                        f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                        ranger
                                        hockey
                                        computer
                                        starwars
                                        asshole
                                        pepper
                                        klaster
                                        112233
                                        zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                        freedom
                                        princess
                                        maggie
                                        pass
                                        ginger
                                        11111111
                                        131313
                                        f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                        love
                                        cheese
                                        159753
                                        summer
                                        chelsea
                                        dallas
                                        biteme
                                        matrix
                                        yankees
                                        6969
                                        corvette
                                        austin

                                        Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                        {
                                        "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                        "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                        "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                        }

                                        I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                        Daniel Wilianto
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #39

                                        Are they using those to warn user when they picked a common password which is among those 30k? The real question is, why aren't those common password saved in a condition which is sorted alphabetically? What a waste of computing resource.

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                                        • C CodeZombie62

                                          I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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                                          Alister Morton
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                                          The (mechanical) teletype terminals I used at school in the 70s only had upper case. The delete character was shifted O and it was a standing joke to say "Oh-shift ;I've mistyped!"

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