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  • R raddevus

    I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

    %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

    I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

    english_wikipedia.txt
    female_names.txt
    male_names.txt
    manifest.fingerprint
    manifest.json
    passwords.txt
    surnames.txt
    us_tv_and_film.txt

    What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

    sunshine
    iloveyou
    f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
    ranger
    hockey
    computer
    starwars
    asshole
    pepper
    klaster
    112233
    zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
    freedom
    princess
    maggie
    pass
    ginger
    11111111
    131313
    f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
    love
    cheese
    159753
    summer
    chelsea
    dallas
    biteme
    matrix
    yankees
    6969
    corvette
    austin

    Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

    {
    "description": "zxcvbn data component",
    "name": "zxcvbnData",
    "version": "3.0.0.0"
    }

    I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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    maze3
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    oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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    • R raddevus

      I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

      %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

      I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

      english_wikipedia.txt
      female_names.txt
      male_names.txt
      manifest.fingerprint
      manifest.json
      passwords.txt
      surnames.txt
      us_tv_and_film.txt

      What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

      sunshine
      iloveyou
      f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
      ranger
      hockey
      computer
      starwars
      asshole
      pepper
      klaster
      112233
      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
      freedom
      princess
      maggie
      pass
      ginger
      11111111
      131313
      f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
      love
      cheese
      159753
      summer
      chelsea
      dallas
      biteme
      matrix
      yankees
      6969
      corvette
      austin

      Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

      {
      "description": "zxcvbn data component",
      "name": "zxcvbnData",
      "version": "3.0.0.0"
      }

      I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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      jsc42
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      What is scary is that these are plain text files. Not even a simple attempt to obfuscate them. If my PC is confiscated and the Police search it for naughty words, they will find them in that directory. What is a relief is that none of my passwords are in the list. Sadly, I'm more common than I thought. Both my forenames are in the top 100 male names and my surname just misses out of its top 100 list. How soon will it be before these name lists are used as the dictionaries for a bad version of Wordle?

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      • R raddevus

        Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive

        Did not know. I'm a newb.

        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        not all terminals support lower-case.

        Sounds like an Apple ][ :-D

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        CodeZombie62
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        I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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        • R raddevus

          OriginalGriff wrote:

          Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...

          I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap> :rolleyes:

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          BryanFazekas
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          Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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          • M maze3

            oh no, passwords has mine: geekboy 😥

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            raddevus
            wrote on last edited by
            #26

            I saw geekboy in the passwords file too. :-D

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            • B BryanFazekas

              Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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              raddevus
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              #27

              BryanFazekas wrote:

              being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.

              Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it. :) Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are. :laugh:

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              • R raddevus

                I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                english_wikipedia.txt
                female_names.txt
                male_names.txt
                manifest.fingerprint
                manifest.json
                passwords.txt
                surnames.txt
                us_tv_and_film.txt

                What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                sunshine
                iloveyou
                f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                ranger
                hockey
                computer
                starwars
                asshole
                pepper
                klaster
                112233
                zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                freedom
                princess
                maggie
                pass
                ginger
                11111111
                131313
                f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                love
                cheese
                159753
                summer
                chelsea
                dallas
                biteme
                matrix
                yankees
                6969
                corvette
                austin

                Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                {
                "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                "name": "zxcvbnData",
                "version": "3.0.0.0"
                }

                I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                Indivara
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                #28

                Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                • I Indivara

                  Its from this [GitHub - dropbox/zxcvbn: Low-Budget Password Strength Estimation](https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn) Apparently Edge (or MS in general) uses it

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                  raddevus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #29

                  Thanks for posting that. I was curious about where it came from. :thumbsup:

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                  • D DerekT P

                    Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president. And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)

                    Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                    dandy72
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                    Clearly it's not meant to be a very exhaustive list, which leads me to ask...what is this intended to be used for anyway?

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                    • B BryanFazekas

                      Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                      James Curran
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                      #31

                      But a regular PC user should recognize Undo, Cut, Copy and Paste.

                      Truth, James

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                      • B BryanFazekas

                        Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice. I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.

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                        sasadler
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                        #32

                        Yep, kind of why I think lighted keyboards are pretty useless for me.

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                        • R raddevus

                          I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                          %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                          I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                          english_wikipedia.txt
                          female_names.txt
                          male_names.txt
                          manifest.fingerprint
                          manifest.json
                          passwords.txt
                          surnames.txt
                          us_tv_and_film.txt

                          What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                          sunshine
                          iloveyou
                          f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                          ranger
                          hockey
                          computer
                          starwars
                          asshole
                          pepper
                          klaster
                          112233
                          zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                          freedom
                          princess
                          maggie
                          pass
                          ginger
                          11111111
                          131313
                          f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                          love
                          cheese
                          159753
                          summer
                          chelsea
                          dallas
                          biteme
                          matrix
                          yankees
                          6969
                          corvette
                          austin

                          Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                          {
                          "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                          "name": "zxcvbnData",
                          "version": "3.0.0.0"
                          }

                          I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                          sasadler
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #33

                          I only use Edge on one website. For some reason I can't sign into the website without using Edge, both Vivaldi and Firefox don't work on that particular site.

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                          • S sasadler

                            I only use Edge on one website. For some reason I can't sign into the website without using Edge, both Vivaldi and Firefox don't work on that particular site.

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                            raddevus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #34

                            sasadler wrote:

                            I only use Edge on one website.

                            I have a healthcare site that will not work on FireFox. When I attempt to login, it tells me that the ID doesn't exist. But that isn't true, of course. It's very odd that it tells me a totally incorrect error and doesn't just fail some other way. I use Brave (chrome-based) and then the site works perfectly fine. Edge is chrome-based also.

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                            • R raddevus

                              I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                              %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                              I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                              english_wikipedia.txt
                              female_names.txt
                              male_names.txt
                              manifest.fingerprint
                              manifest.json
                              passwords.txt
                              surnames.txt
                              us_tv_and_film.txt

                              What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                              sunshine
                              iloveyou
                              f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                              ranger
                              hockey
                              computer
                              starwars
                              asshole
                              pepper
                              klaster
                              112233
                              zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                              freedom
                              princess
                              maggie
                              pass
                              ginger
                              11111111
                              131313
                              f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                              love
                              cheese
                              159753
                              summer
                              chelsea
                              dallas
                              biteme
                              matrix
                              yankees
                              6969
                              corvette
                              austin

                              Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                              {
                              "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                              "name": "zxcvbnData",
                              "version": "3.0.0.0"
                              }

                              I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                              jurluk
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                              #35

                              Nothing particularly secret there. Just one google search away: https://github.com/dropbox/zxcvbn

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                              • R raddevus

                                sasadler wrote:

                                I only use Edge on one website.

                                I have a healthcare site that will not work on FireFox. When I attempt to login, it tells me that the ID doesn't exist. But that isn't true, of course. It's very odd that it tells me a totally incorrect error and doesn't just fail some other way. I use Brave (chrome-based) and then the site works perfectly fine. Edge is chrome-based also.

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                                sasadler
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                                #36

                                Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work.

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                                • S sasadler

                                  Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work.

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                                  raddevus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #37

                                  sasadler wrote:

                                  Vivaldi is based on chrome too but it doesn't work

                                  Interesting. I wonder what it is on these browser that fails.

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                                  • R raddevus

                                    I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                    %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                    I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                    english_wikipedia.txt
                                    female_names.txt
                                    male_names.txt
                                    manifest.fingerprint
                                    manifest.json
                                    passwords.txt
                                    surnames.txt
                                    us_tv_and_film.txt

                                    What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                    sunshine
                                    iloveyou
                                    f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                    ranger
                                    hockey
                                    computer
                                    starwars
                                    asshole
                                    pepper
                                    klaster
                                    112233
                                    zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                    freedom
                                    princess
                                    maggie
                                    pass
                                    ginger
                                    11111111
                                    131313
                                    f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                    love
                                    cheese
                                    159753
                                    summer
                                    chelsea
                                    dallas
                                    biteme
                                    matrix
                                    yankees
                                    6969
                                    corvette
                                    austin

                                    Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                    {
                                    "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                    "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                    "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                    }

                                    I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                    Nelek
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #38

                                    raddevus wrote:

                                    zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!

                                    Qwerty was already taken... so they just went two rows below.... :rolleyes:

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    • R raddevus

                                      I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]). Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it. :laugh: Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed. MS Edge Secrets I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets... You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:

                                      %localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0

                                      I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too?? Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there. You can see that there[^]. It's a list of files named:

                                      english_wikipedia.txt
                                      female_names.txt
                                      male_names.txt
                                      manifest.fingerprint
                                      manifest.json
                                      passwords.txt
                                      surnames.txt
                                      us_tv_and_film.txt

                                      What!?! Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)

                                      sunshine
                                      iloveyou
                                      f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                      ranger
                                      hockey
                                      computer
                                      starwars
                                      asshole
                                      pepper
                                      klaster
                                      112233
                                      zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
                                      freedom
                                      princess
                                      maggie
                                      pass
                                      ginger
                                      11111111
                                      131313
                                      f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
                                      love
                                      cheese
                                      159753
                                      summer
                                      chelsea
                                      dallas
                                      biteme
                                      matrix
                                      yankees
                                      6969
                                      corvette
                                      austin

                                      Edit Update Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:

                                      {
                                      "description": "zxcvbn data component",
                                      "name": "zxcvbnData",
                                      "version": "3.0.0.0"
                                      }

                                      I think that pretty much explains it. :~ :rolleyes:

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                                      Daniel Wilianto
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #39

                                      Are they using those to warn user when they picked a common password which is among those 30k? The real question is, why aren't those common password saved in a condition which is sorted alphabetically? What a waste of computing resource.

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                                      • C CodeZombie62

                                        I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.

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                                        Alister Morton
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                                        The (mechanical) teletype terminals I used at school in the 70s only had upper case. The delete character was shifted O and it was a standing joke to say "Oh-shift ;I've mistyped!"

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete. OriginalGriff isn't even in there!

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                          Alister Morton
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                                          A very incomplete list indeed.

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