Is visual basic dead?
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I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?
[Edit] Ignore me. I started writing about how MS had recently re-iterated for the Nth time that VB was really, really dead and they were about to not only disable it, but actually remove the runtime. Which you still can reinstall if you really want to. But that was VBScript. Pardon my confusion. According to ChatGPT:
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Yes, Visual Basic is still officially supported by Microsoft 1. In fact, Microsoft updated its programming languages strategy in February 2023, confirming that Visual Basic will remain a going concern even though it’s still relegated to second-rate status when compared to C# and F#. The company remains committed to Visual Basic and continues to invest in maintaining C# interop and Visual Studio features for folks that love Visual Basic or want a stable language.
...which to me sounds a lot like they'll make sure you can still build with it, and access everything the common runtime has to offer, but just don't expect Microsoft to port new features beyond that. To me, "second-rate status" says it all.
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[Edit] Ignore me. I started writing about how MS had recently re-iterated for the Nth time that VB was really, really dead and they were about to not only disable it, but actually remove the runtime. Which you still can reinstall if you really want to. But that was VBScript. Pardon my confusion. According to ChatGPT:
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Yes, Visual Basic is still officially supported by Microsoft 1. In fact, Microsoft updated its programming languages strategy in February 2023, confirming that Visual Basic will remain a going concern even though it’s still relegated to second-rate status when compared to C# and F#. The company remains committed to Visual Basic and continues to invest in maintaining C# interop and Visual Studio features for folks that love Visual Basic or want a stable language.
...which to me sounds a lot like they'll make sure you can still build with it, and access everything the common runtime has to offer, but just don't expect Microsoft to port new features beyond that. To me, "second-rate status" says it all.
Look, every coder I've known who knew one language and refused to ever use another was using vb6 or vb.net. so it costs nothing to keep the lights on but never built any extensions.
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I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?
I use it.
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[Edit] Ignore me. I started writing about how MS had recently re-iterated for the Nth time that VB was really, really dead and they were about to not only disable it, but actually remove the runtime. Which you still can reinstall if you really want to. But that was VBScript. Pardon my confusion. According to ChatGPT:
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Yes, Visual Basic is still officially supported by Microsoft 1. In fact, Microsoft updated its programming languages strategy in February 2023, confirming that Visual Basic will remain a going concern even though it’s still relegated to second-rate status when compared to C# and F#. The company remains committed to Visual Basic and continues to invest in maintaining C# interop and Visual Studio features for folks that love Visual Basic or want a stable language.
...which to me sounds a lot like they'll make sure you can still build with it, and access everything the common runtime has to offer, but just don't expect Microsoft to port new features beyond that. To me, "second-rate status" says it all.
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Look, every coder I've known who knew one language and refused to ever use another was using vb6 or vb.net. so it costs nothing to keep the lights on but never built any extensions.
Well, by MS's common definition, something still under support will continue to get security fixes. Something completely out of support won't. So it's not like there is "no cost" in keeping it alive. But I guess this is a rather unique case; if VB.NET compiles to the same CLR as C#, it's not likely there would be problems that are unique to VB.NET and thus give reason to MS to abandon it...(?)
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I use it.
By choice?
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Well, by MS's common definition, something still under support will continue to get security fixes. Something completely out of support won't. So it's not like there is "no cost" in keeping it alive. But I guess this is a rather unique case; if VB.NET compiles to the same CLR as C#, it's not likely there would be problems that are unique to VB.NET and thus give reason to MS to abandon it...(?)
Yeah it's minimal cost I think
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By choice?
Yes. I also use C#. I don't do much anymore. I have a website built mostly in VB.net continuously expanding since 2005. At 80, the brain is not as sharp as it once was. I didn't start serious programming until about 2000. I used Microsoft Basic on a $3000 Epson CPM machine in 1983. When I started using VBA for Excel around 2000, I found that most of the MS Basic worked with little change. The people at this site have been quite helpful over the years.
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Yes. I also use C#. I don't do much anymore. I have a website built mostly in VB.net continuously expanding since 2005. At 80, the brain is not as sharp as it once was. I didn't start serious programming until about 2000. I used Microsoft Basic on a $3000 Epson CPM machine in 1983. When I started using VBA for Excel around 2000, I found that most of the MS Basic worked with little change. The people at this site have been quite helpful over the years.
I got serious about coding in 1999, and it was this site where I learned, I don't have a degree. So yes, it's been very helpful. I am 54
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I've asked the Bing AI programming questions and I am thrilled with the absolute confidence with which it tells me bullshit
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I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?
I haven't touched it in years. I mean a loooooong time. But, then again, I do web development mainly these days. But, last service I made for a job was in C#. Me no not use VB.NET.
Jeremy Falcon
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I haven't touched it in years. I mean a loooooong time. But, then again, I do web development mainly these days. But, last service I made for a job was in C#. Me no not use VB.NET.
Jeremy Falcon
I used it a few times. I used VB6 a lot more, my company bought a product written in classic ASP and VB6 and I had to convert it. In 2011, a guy was using VB6 because he refused to learn new things. My work is nearly all web now, the odd mobile app
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I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?
It's still alive? :)
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate
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It's still alive? :)
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate
Yeah apparently. I saw someone else post about it, this is a reaction post :)
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Yeah apparently. I saw someone else post about it, this is a reaction post :)
I worked on a legacy app about 10 years ago written in VB and had to relearn the language just enough to do the work required and hated every second of it. Only other time was about 40 yrs. ago worked on a motor tester using HP basic and some of their hardware. It wasn't so bad as I remember but that was all I cared to do even back then. Was using assembler at the time and taught myself C and then C++ as soon as it became available.
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate
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I worked on a legacy app about 10 years ago written in VB and had to relearn the language just enough to do the work required and hated every second of it. Only other time was about 40 yrs. ago worked on a motor tester using HP basic and some of their hardware. It wasn't so bad as I remember but that was all I cared to do even back then. Was using assembler at the time and taught myself C and then C++ as soon as it became available.
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate
Most of my VB work was VB6, for the same reasons, to update a legacy app
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I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?
Not dead, but "done".
Visual Basic language strategy - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]
We will ensure Visual Basic remains a straightforward and approachable language with a stable design. The core libraries of .NET (such as the BCL) will support VB and many of the improvements to the .NET Runtime and libraries will automatically benefit VB. When C# or the .NET Runtime introduce new features that would require language support, VB will generally adopt a consumption-only approach and avoid new syntax. We do not plan to extend Visual Basic to new workloads. We will continue to invest in the experience in Visual Studio and interop with C#, especially in core VB scenarios such as Windows Forms and libraries.
TTFN - Kent
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Not dead, but "done".
Visual Basic language strategy - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]
We will ensure Visual Basic remains a straightforward and approachable language with a stable design. The core libraries of .NET (such as the BCL) will support VB and many of the improvements to the .NET Runtime and libraries will automatically benefit VB. When C# or the .NET Runtime introduce new features that would require language support, VB will generally adopt a consumption-only approach and avoid new syntax. We do not plan to extend Visual Basic to new workloads. We will continue to invest in the experience in Visual Studio and interop with C#, especially in core VB scenarios such as Windows Forms and libraries.
TTFN - Kent
Left to die on the vine
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I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?
IMHO, VB is the easiest-to-learn visual programming environment. If only I had known about it before learning about the Message Map macros in MFC, I would have learnt things faster.