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Is visual basic dead?

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  • D dandy72

    Well, by MS's common definition, something still under support will continue to get security fixes. Something completely out of support won't. So it's not like there is "no cost" in keeping it alive. But I guess this is a rather unique case; if VB.NET compiles to the same CLR as C#, it's not likely there would be problems that are unique to VB.NET and thus give reason to MS to abandon it...(?)

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    Christian Graus
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    Yeah it's minimal cost I think

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    • R RedDk

      dandy72 wrote:

      ChatGPT

      I don't know what to make of that.

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      dandy72
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      I queried it instead of Google. That's all that means. I rather like the summaries it generates, rather than following link after link which lead to questionable results.

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      • C Christian Graus

        By choice?

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        BobbyStrain
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        Yes. I also use C#. I don't do much anymore. I have a website built mostly in VB.net continuously expanding since 2005. At 80, the brain is not as sharp as it once was. I didn't start serious programming until about 2000. I used Microsoft Basic on a $3000 Epson CPM machine in 1983. When I started using VBA for Excel around 2000, I found that most of the MS Basic worked with little change. The people at this site have been quite helpful over the years.

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        • B BobbyStrain

          Yes. I also use C#. I don't do much anymore. I have a website built mostly in VB.net continuously expanding since 2005. At 80, the brain is not as sharp as it once was. I didn't start serious programming until about 2000. I used Microsoft Basic on a $3000 Epson CPM machine in 1983. When I started using VBA for Excel around 2000, I found that most of the MS Basic worked with little change. The people at this site have been quite helpful over the years.

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          Christian Graus
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          I got serious about coding in 1999, and it was this site where I learned, I don't have a degree. So yes, it's been very helpful. I am 54

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            dandy72 wrote:

            ChatGPT

            I don't know what to make of that.

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            Christian Graus
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            I've asked the Bing AI programming questions and I am thrilled with the absolute confidence with which it tells me bullshit

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            • C Christian Graus

              I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              I haven't touched it in years. I mean a loooooong time. But, then again, I do web development mainly these days. But, last service I made for a job was in C#. Me no not use VB.NET.

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                I haven't touched it in years. I mean a loooooong time. But, then again, I do web development mainly these days. But, last service I made for a job was in C#. Me no not use VB.NET.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                Christian Graus
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                I used it a few times. I used VB6 a lot more, my company bought a product written in classic ASP and VB6 and I had to convert it. In 2011, a guy was using VB6 because he refused to learn new things. My work is nearly all web now, the odd mobile app

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                • C Christian Graus

                  I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  It's still alive? :)

                  I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                  • M Mike Hankey

                    It's still alive? :)

                    I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Yeah apparently. I saw someone else post about it, this is a reaction post :)

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Yeah apparently. I saw someone else post about it, this is a reaction post :)

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                      I worked on a legacy app about 10 years ago written in VB and had to relearn the language just enough to do the work required and hated every second of it. Only other time was about 40 yrs. ago worked on a motor tester using HP basic and some of their hardware. It wasn't so bad as I remember but that was all I cared to do even back then. Was using assembler at the time and taught myself C and then C++ as soon as it became available.

                      I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                        I worked on a legacy app about 10 years ago written in VB and had to relearn the language just enough to do the work required and hated every second of it. Only other time was about 40 yrs. ago worked on a motor tester using HP basic and some of their hardware. It wasn't so bad as I remember but that was all I cared to do even back then. Was using assembler at the time and taught myself C and then C++ as soon as it became available.

                        I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Most of my VB work was VB6, for the same reasons, to update a legacy app

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                          Kent Sharkey
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                          Not dead, but "done".

                          Visual Basic language strategy - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]

                          We will ensure Visual Basic remains a straightforward and approachable language with a stable design. The core libraries of .NET (such as the BCL) will support VB and many of the improvements to the .NET Runtime and libraries will automatically benefit VB. When C# or the .NET Runtime introduce new features that would require language support, VB will generally adopt a consumption-only approach and avoid new syntax. We do not plan to extend Visual Basic to new workloads. We will continue to invest in the experience in Visual Studio and interop with C#, especially in core VB scenarios such as Windows Forms and libraries.

                          TTFN - Kent

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                          • K Kent Sharkey

                            Not dead, but "done".

                            Visual Basic language strategy - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]

                            We will ensure Visual Basic remains a straightforward and approachable language with a stable design. The core libraries of .NET (such as the BCL) will support VB and many of the improvements to the .NET Runtime and libraries will automatically benefit VB. When C# or the .NET Runtime introduce new features that would require language support, VB will generally adopt a consumption-only approach and avoid new syntax. We do not plan to extend Visual Basic to new workloads. We will continue to invest in the experience in Visual Studio and interop with C#, especially in core VB scenarios such as Windows Forms and libraries.

                            TTFN - Kent

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                            Christian Graus
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                            Left to die on the vine

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                              Amarnath S
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                              IMHO, VB is the easiest-to-learn visual programming environment. If only I had known about it before learning about the Message Map macros in MFC, I would have learnt things faster.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                                CPallini
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                                Caroline says she wants a language but it's just a toy.

                                "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  Left to die on the vine

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                                  Nelek
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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  Left to die on the vine

                                  Do not worry or be sad... Seeing how much VB6 still is alive and kicking (often in the balls). I suppose you will have VB.Net until you retire. :rolleyes: :-D

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  • A Amarnath S

                                    IMHO, VB is the easiest-to-learn visual programming environment. If only I had known about it before learning about the Message Map macros in MFC, I would have learnt things faster.

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                                    Nelek
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                                    Amarnath S wrote:

                                    I would have learnt things faster.

                                    Probably, but, would you have learned the correct ones?

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      It's still alive? :)

                                      I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                                      Nelek
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                                      Yeah... it needs more than a #2 double tap[^] :rolleyes: :-D

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      • A Amarnath S

                                        IMHO, VB is the easiest-to-learn visual programming environment. If only I had known about it before learning about the Message Map macros in MFC, I would have learnt things faster.

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Amarnath S wrote:

                                        the Message Map macros in MFC

                                        I wasted far too much of my life grappling with those abominations. X| X|

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                                          den2k88
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                                          In .NET it makes no sense, there is only the CLR and C# is the sensible choice - many languages have C-like syntax, only VB has VB-like syntax. If they will ever make a native VB7 personally I will be if not the first adopter, the second. It's happening more and more that I need to put up a small interface for testing or an intelligent script with some graphic and swear against the useless complications imposed by the alternatives. I miss VB (but not On Error Resiume Next).

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