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Is visual basic dead?

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  • R RedDk

    dandy72 wrote:

    ChatGPT

    I don't know what to make of that.

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    Christian Graus
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    I've asked the Bing AI programming questions and I am thrilled with the absolute confidence with which it tells me bullshit

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    • C Christian Graus

      I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      I haven't touched it in years. I mean a loooooong time. But, then again, I do web development mainly these days. But, last service I made for a job was in C#. Me no not use VB.NET.

      Jeremy Falcon

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        I haven't touched it in years. I mean a loooooong time. But, then again, I do web development mainly these days. But, last service I made for a job was in C#. Me no not use VB.NET.

        Jeremy Falcon

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        Christian Graus
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        I used it a few times. I used VB6 a lot more, my company bought a product written in classic ASP and VB6 and I had to convert it. In 2011, a guy was using VB6 because he refused to learn new things. My work is nearly all web now, the odd mobile app

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        • C Christian Graus

          I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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          Mike Hankey
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          It's still alive? :)

          I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            It's still alive? :)

            I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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            Christian Graus
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            Yeah apparently. I saw someone else post about it, this is a reaction post :)

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            • C Christian Graus

              Yeah apparently. I saw someone else post about it, this is a reaction post :)

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              Mike Hankey
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              I worked on a legacy app about 10 years ago written in VB and had to relearn the language just enough to do the work required and hated every second of it. Only other time was about 40 yrs. ago worked on a motor tester using HP basic and some of their hardware. It wasn't so bad as I remember but that was all I cared to do even back then. Was using assembler at the time and taught myself C and then C++ as soon as it became available.

              I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                I worked on a legacy app about 10 years ago written in VB and had to relearn the language just enough to do the work required and hated every second of it. Only other time was about 40 yrs. ago worked on a motor tester using HP basic and some of their hardware. It wasn't so bad as I remember but that was all I cared to do even back then. Was using assembler at the time and taught myself C and then C++ as soon as it became available.

                I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                Christian Graus
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                Most of my VB work was VB6, for the same reasons, to update a legacy app

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                • C Christian Graus

                  I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                  Kent Sharkey
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                  Not dead, but "done".

                  Visual Basic language strategy - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]

                  We will ensure Visual Basic remains a straightforward and approachable language with a stable design. The core libraries of .NET (such as the BCL) will support VB and many of the improvements to the .NET Runtime and libraries will automatically benefit VB. When C# or the .NET Runtime introduce new features that would require language support, VB will generally adopt a consumption-only approach and avoid new syntax. We do not plan to extend Visual Basic to new workloads. We will continue to invest in the experience in Visual Studio and interop with C#, especially in core VB scenarios such as Windows Forms and libraries.

                  TTFN - Kent

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                    Not dead, but "done".

                    Visual Basic language strategy - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]

                    We will ensure Visual Basic remains a straightforward and approachable language with a stable design. The core libraries of .NET (such as the BCL) will support VB and many of the improvements to the .NET Runtime and libraries will automatically benefit VB. When C# or the .NET Runtime introduce new features that would require language support, VB will generally adopt a consumption-only approach and avoid new syntax. We do not plan to extend Visual Basic to new workloads. We will continue to invest in the experience in Visual Studio and interop with C#, especially in core VB scenarios such as Windows Forms and libraries.

                    TTFN - Kent

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Left to die on the vine

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                      Amarnath S
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                      IMHO, VB is the easiest-to-learn visual programming environment. If only I had known about it before learning about the Message Map macros in MFC, I would have learnt things faster.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                        CPallini
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                        Caroline says she wants a language but it's just a toy.

                        "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Left to die on the vine

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                          Nelek
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Left to die on the vine

                          Do not worry or be sad... Seeing how much VB6 still is alive and kicking (often in the balls). I suppose you will have VB.Net until you retire. :rolleyes: :-D

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          • A Amarnath S

                            IMHO, VB is the easiest-to-learn visual programming environment. If only I had known about it before learning about the Message Map macros in MFC, I would have learnt things faster.

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                            Nelek
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                            Amarnath S wrote:

                            I would have learnt things faster.

                            Probably, but, would you have learned the correct ones?

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                              It's still alive? :)

                              I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                              Nelek
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                              Yeah... it needs more than a #2 double tap[^] :rolleyes: :-D

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              • A Amarnath S

                                IMHO, VB is the easiest-to-learn visual programming environment. If only I had known about it before learning about the Message Map macros in MFC, I would have learnt things faster.

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                                Lost User
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                                Amarnath S wrote:

                                the Message Map macros in MFC

                                I wasted far too much of my life grappling with those abominations. X| X|

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                                  den2k88
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                                  In .NET it makes no sense, there is only the CLR and C# is the sensible choice - many languages have C-like syntax, only VB has VB-like syntax. If they will ever make a native VB7 personally I will be if not the first adopter, the second. It's happening more and more that I need to put up a small interface for testing or an intelligent script with some graphic and swear against the useless complications imposed by the alternatives. I miss VB (but not On Error Resiume Next).

                                  GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                                    DerekT P
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                                    I'm on the verge of retiring and haven't built a new commercial system for ages; when I last did, I used C#, and a couple of hobby websites I'm using C#. But I'm also still supporting VB.Net stuff (including one large commercial system) and have even found a couple of 3rd parties who are happy to take over long-term support for it. If I need to knock up a proof-of-concept or a quick web utility for myself, I still find VB quicker than C#. And in work, I've yet to find anything I can't do in VB.Net that I can (and want to) do in C#. But I'm a bit of a Luddite anyway.

                                    Telegraph marker posts ... nothing to do with IT Phasmid email discussion group ... also nothing to do with IT Beekeeping and honey site ... still nothing to do with IT

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      I feel like I've not seen any vb.net roles in some time.. Is it still being built or is it dead?

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Not enough "samples". If you have to start somewhere (with MS), finding "working samples" (C#) is a big plus.

                                      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        I've asked the Bing AI programming questions and I am thrilled with the absolute confidence with which it tells me bullshit

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                                        Nelek
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                                        At least you can recongnise it is bullshit... I don't want to imagine how many wannabe coders are now copy+pasting from it and wondering why it doesn't work, which actually would be the best case, worst one is it compiles and works, but not as it should.

                                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                        • D dandy72

                                          I queried it instead of Google. That's all that means. I rather like the summaries it generates, rather than following link after link which lead to questionable results.

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                                          RedDk
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                                          Ok. In your defense, I just had a ChatGPT bot go off in my face without having clicked on any link anywhere. So all queasy feelings aside, you may proceed to the keep :cool:

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