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  • T Tom Archer

    The "smiling bomber" was conficted today[^] in Indonesia for the bombing of a nightclub last year that killed 202 people - many of them Australian tourists. The bomber stated that his motive was to attack "Westerners". Now the last time I checked Australia, was nowhere near the west. However, when I think of the east and "eastern politics" I typically think of countries such as India, China, North Korea, etc. Is Australia considered "western" at least as far as her politics are concerned? Cheers, Tom Archer Inside C#,
    Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework It's better to listen to others than to speak, because I already know what I'm going to say anyway. - friend of Jörgen Sigvardsson

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    Have you guys taken the Queen off your currency yet? I keep forgetting to ask my uncle who has lived down there for 35 years or so now. I loved it when that whole argument about The Queen being sovereign was raging. Bloody silly, but then I'd behead her and her whole entourage if I could get away with it :cool:

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      Have you guys taken the Queen off your currency yet? I keep forgetting to ask my uncle who has lived down there for 35 years or so now. I loved it when that whole argument about The Queen being sovereign was raging. Bloody silly, but then I'd behead her and her whole entourage if I could get away with it :cool:

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      Andrew McCarter wrote: Have you guys taken the Queen off your currency yet? She's on all the coins, but not the notes.

      Ryan

      "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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        Andrew McCarter wrote: Have you guys taken the Queen off your currency yet? She's on all the coins, but not the notes.

        Ryan

        "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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        Thanks. At least she doesn't adorn the real money then!

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          Australia floats about quite a bit, all those corks around it are the reason... so a couple hundred years ago it was in the west. Thats when all the whiteys hoped aboard the Goal Express, the chaps in charge then decided to see what was down under the Earth and headed for it's current position. They must have dinged into South Africa at one point because lord do we have a beef with them. Next time they head past we are sending our swimming team over to give them hell. Seriously though... from all the Aussies I have met I would say it is the west but without business suits.

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          Roger Wright wrote: Personally, I'm seeking a red-headed, double-breasted mattress thrasher

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          Paul Watson wrote: but without business suits. Then clearly, Australia is an example of advanced citizenship. Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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            Thanks. I'm not one that has ever been too interested in politics so the statement about attacking westerners and then it being Australians definitely seemed strange to me. Ok. That was my 5 minutes in the sunshine. Back to the mines for me for another month until I again emerge and ask something else equally inane about the world around me :) Cheers, Tom Archer Inside C#,
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            Tom Archer wrote: Ok. That was my 5 minutes in the sunshine. Back to the mines for me for another month until I again emerge and ask something else equally inane about the world around me Hey! What are you doing lounging around here?! Don't you have a book to finish? Slackers... :rolleyes: Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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              Paul Watson wrote: but without business suits. Then clearly, Australia is an example of advanced citizenship. Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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              Christopher Duncan wrote: Then clearly, Australia is an example of advanced citizenship. :-D Amen! The scariest part of me adjusting to London is going to be ditching my t-shirt and shorts routine for a black suit and cattle-truck-tube routine. If I squint really hard and drink lots of warm beer I can understand the logic of suits in winter... but mein gott it is insanity to persist with suits during a London summer.

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              Bluegrass
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              Roger Wright wrote: Personally, I'm seeking a red-headed, double-breasted mattress thrasher

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                Thanks. At least she doesn't adorn the real money then!

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                Andrew McCarter wrote: At least she doesn't adorn the real money then! :rolleyes: I'm not gonna get sucked into a republic vs. monarchy debate :)

                Ryan

                "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                  Christopher Duncan wrote: Then clearly, Australia is an example of advanced citizenship. :-D Amen! The scariest part of me adjusting to London is going to be ditching my t-shirt and shorts routine for a black suit and cattle-truck-tube routine. If I squint really hard and drink lots of warm beer I can understand the logic of suits in winter... but mein gott it is insanity to persist with suits during a London summer.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Roger Wright wrote: Personally, I'm seeking a red-headed, double-breasted mattress thrasher

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                  Paul Watson wrote: but mein gott it is insanity to persist with suits during a London summer. And the old barbarian in me can't even remotely fathom why people would voluntarily walk around with a rope tied around their neck. Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                    Andrew McCarter wrote: At least she doesn't adorn the real money then! :rolleyes: I'm not gonna get sucked into a republic vs. monarchy debate :)

                    Ryan

                    "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                    lol!! I'm not really against monarchy in all it's forms ... just ours! If ours resembled that of Denmark or Norway, I wouldn't mind quite so much.

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                      Paul Watson wrote: but mein gott it is insanity to persist with suits during a London summer. And the old barbarian in me can't even remotely fathom why people would voluntarily walk around with a rope tied around their neck. Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                      Christopher Duncan wrote: And the old barbarian in me can't even remotely fathom why people would voluntarily walk around with a rope tied around their neck. I think it's a reaction to the high-stress environment of the City - if you want to top yourself, you have a noose already and waiting.... -- Ian Darling If I was any more loopy, I'd be infinite.

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                        lol!! I'm not really against monarchy in all it's forms ... just ours! If ours resembled that of Denmark or Norway, I wouldn't mind quite so much.

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                        Andrew McCarter wrote: I'm not really against monarchy in all it's forms ... just ours! If ours resembled that of Denmark or Norway, I wouldn't mind quite so much. And if you were in theirs, you'd probably like ours :). Everything looks better from the outside than it does from the inside. I personally don't really care one way or the other. I'm a professional fence-sitter (about this, anyway), but these damn fenceposts sure do hurt :wtf: :rolleyes:

                        Ryan

                        "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                          Paul Watson wrote: but mein gott it is insanity to persist with suits during a London summer. And the old barbarian in me can't even remotely fathom why people would voluntarily walk around with a rope tied around their neck. Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                          Christopher Duncan wrote: And the old barbarian in me can't even remotely fathom why people would voluntarily walk around with a rope tied around their neck. Absolutely. Who in their right mind would start the day by tying a noose around their neck? :wtf:

                          Ryan

                          "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                            Christopher Duncan wrote: And the old barbarian in me can't even remotely fathom why people would voluntarily walk around with a rope tied around their neck. Absolutely. Who in their right mind would start the day by tying a noose around their neck? :wtf:

                            Ryan

                            "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                            Ryan Binns wrote: Who in their right mind would start the day by tying a noose around their neck? Which is why the British sense of humour is the best in the world.

                            Paul Watson
                            Bluegrass
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                            Roger Wright wrote: Personally, I'm seeking a red-headed, double-breasted mattress thrasher

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                              Tom Archer wrote: Ok. That was my 5 minutes in the sunshine. Back to the mines for me for another month until I again emerge and ask something else equally inane about the world around me Hey! What are you doing lounging around here?! Don't you have a book to finish? Slackers... :rolleyes: Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote: Hey! What are you doing lounging around here?! Don't you have a book to finish? Slackers... Tom and I are discussing what to do with the millions we make out of the book. I have an eye on a nice island in the middle of the pacific. But there's still an awful lot of money left. Maybe I'll treat myself to a couple of terrabits gateway. Nish :-D


                              Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework [NW] (My book with Tom) Summer Love and Some more Cricket [NW] (My first novel) Shog's review of SLASMC [NW] Come with me if you want to live

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                                Christopher Duncan wrote: Hey! What are you doing lounging around here?! Don't you have a book to finish? Slackers... Tom and I are discussing what to do with the millions we make out of the book. I have an eye on a nice island in the middle of the pacific. But there's still an awful lot of money left. Maybe I'll treat myself to a couple of terrabits gateway. Nish :-D


                                Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework [NW] (My book with Tom) Summer Love and Some more Cricket [NW] (My first novel) Shog's review of SLASMC [NW] Come with me if you want to live

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                                Fill up my car with gas?;) Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963)

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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote: Hey! What are you doing lounging around here?! Don't you have a book to finish? Slackers... Tom and I are discussing what to do with the millions we make out of the book. I have an eye on a nice island in the middle of the pacific. But there's still an awful lot of money left. Maybe I'll treat myself to a couple of terrabits gateway. Nish :-D


                                  Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework [NW] (My book with Tom) Summer Love and Some more Cricket [NW] (My first novel) Shog's review of SLASMC [NW] Come with me if you want to live

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                                  Nishant S wrote: Tom and I are discussing what to do with the millions we make out of the book. Of course, you have to let the world know that it exists first. Since there are two of you strategically located, I guess Tom gets to handle promoting it in the western hemisphere and you're in charge of the eastern, eh? :-) By the way, based on what I've heard, this is the first techie book I've been excited about in a long time. As a die hard MFC guy, it'll be great to bolt on all the .NET stuff without having to give up the horsepower of a language that doesn't say "no". So Nish, have you started lining up book signings at the stores in India yet? Just remember us working class folks when you're rich & famous! Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                    Ryan Binns wrote: Who in their right mind would start the day by tying a noose around their neck? Which is why the British sense of humour is the best in the world.

                                    Paul Watson
                                    Bluegrass
                                    Cape Town, South Africa

                                    Roger Wright wrote: Personally, I'm seeking a red-headed, double-breasted mattress thrasher

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                                    I wouldn't say suit wearing was the norm in the UK software industry. It's only likely if you meet customers or work for the software section of a bank. My wife reckons that Australia is more strict on suit wearing and smart dress.

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                                      Nishant S wrote: Tom and I are discussing what to do with the millions we make out of the book. Of course, you have to let the world know that it exists first. Since there are two of you strategically located, I guess Tom gets to handle promoting it in the western hemisphere and you're in charge of the eastern, eh? :-) By the way, based on what I've heard, this is the first techie book I've been excited about in a long time. As a die hard MFC guy, it'll be great to bolt on all the .NET stuff without having to give up the horsepower of a language that doesn't say "no". So Nish, have you started lining up book signings at the stores in India yet? Just remember us working class folks when you're rich & famous! Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote: By the way, based on what I've heard, this is the first techie book I've been excited about in a long time. The best part of writing the book was all the cool stuff we learned :-) Initially there is a thinking that can creep in that .NET will just add to the bulk; but soon the versatility available through exposing the entire BCL to your MFC apps would stun you :-) It did stun me, as it did Tom who's certainly no newbie at this stuff. Christopher Duncan wrote: Just remember us working class folks when you're rich & famous! I am gonna keep a notebook where I'll add entries for all my working-class friends so I won't forget them :-D Nish p.s. If the /. guys hear that I called you working class they'd kill me I guess.


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                                        Christopher Duncan wrote: By the way, based on what I've heard, this is the first techie book I've been excited about in a long time. The best part of writing the book was all the cool stuff we learned :-) Initially there is a thinking that can creep in that .NET will just add to the bulk; but soon the versatility available through exposing the entire BCL to your MFC apps would stun you :-) It did stun me, as it did Tom who's certainly no newbie at this stuff. Christopher Duncan wrote: Just remember us working class folks when you're rich & famous! I am gonna keep a notebook where I'll add entries for all my working-class friends so I won't forget them :-D Nish p.s. If the /. guys hear that I called you working class they'd kill me I guess.


                                        Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework [NW] (My book with Tom) Summer Love and Some more Cricket [NW] (My first novel) Shog's review of SLASMC [NW] Come with me if you want to live

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                                        Nishant S wrote: soon the versatility available through exposing the entire BCL to your MFC apps would stun you That's what I'm thinking. Sounds like powerful stuff for us C++ guys. Nishant S wrote: p.s. If the /. guys hear that I called you working class they'd kill me I guess. Nah. Nobody who knows me would ever believe that I actually work! :-D Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                          Thanks. At least she doesn't adorn the real money then!

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                                          Andrew McCarter wrote: the real money you've never had to count the change in your pocket and discovered that it added up to 40 odd bucks! :) Those 2 dollar coins are small! Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net

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