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  • W Weiye Chen

    First name = Given name Last name = Family name Am i right? :confused: Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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    Todd C Wilson
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    Depends on the country and regional traditions. Would help to know why you're asking.


    Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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      Depends on the country and regional traditions. Would help to know why you're asking.


      Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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      Weiye Chen
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      Todd C. Wilson wrote: Would help to know why you're asking Well, i was registering myself for a seminar on a website and found out that their first name field only accepts 1 word, which makes me wonder whether i am right about this first and last name thing... :~ Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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      • W Weiye Chen

        Todd C. Wilson wrote: Would help to know why you're asking Well, i was registering myself for a seminar on a website and found out that their first name field only accepts 1 word, which makes me wonder whether i am right about this first and last name thing... :~ Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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        Todd C Wilson
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        Either concat the name or else hyphinate[sp?] it. Your "legal" name is what appears on your credit card, since that is what they will use to charge it (if the seminar is free, then point is moot)


        Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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        • W Weiye Chen

          Nick Seng wrote: AFAIK What's that? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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          Nick Seng
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          As Far As I Know. I should really stop using abbreviations :-O


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          • W Weiye Chen

            Nick Seng wrote: AFAIK What's that? Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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            Michael P Butler
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            Weiye Chen wrote: AFAIK What's that? As Far As I Know Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879

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            • T Todd C Wilson

              Either concat the name or else hyphinate[sp?] it. Your "legal" name is what appears on your credit card, since that is what they will use to charge it (if the seminar is free, then point is moot)


              Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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              Nick Seng
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              If I'm right, it's because Chinese names are different from western ones. It's usually arranged Last Name : First Name : Middle Name* and that's the way it appears on the identification. *without the ':' of course


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              • N Nick Seng

                If I'm right, it's because Chinese names are different from western ones. It's usually arranged Last Name : First Name : Middle Name* and that's the way it appears on the identification. *without the ':' of course


                God, I pity me! - Phoncible P. Bone If I end up Windows ME someone is going to be hurting. - One of the answers to a question for What OS are you

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                Weiye Chen
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                Nick Seng wrote: It's usually arranged Last Name : First Name : Middle Name* Isn't it Last Name(Surname) : Middle Name : First Name ? So for my name, it would be Chen Wei Ye (though the middle and first name normally are appended together) This first name last name middle name thing are driving me crazy!!:mad: Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                • W Weiye Chen

                  First name = Given name Last name = Family name Am i right? :confused: Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                  Olli
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                  In Europe, mostly YES. There are some northern countries which take the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son ( Sigurd Olafson, his son's name is then Ole Sigurdson ... AFAIK, correct somebody me if not right...) But in central and western Europe, First Name is (parents) choice, Last Name is by birth...;)

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Nnamdi Onyeyiri wrote: a typical geek, just couldnt leave it simple, you had to go deeper :laugh: I just thought it might be helpful if he was informed of all the possibilities so that when he ran across Christian Name he would know what it meant. :)

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                    Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                    Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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                    yeah, all geeks have a reason for making things complicated ;)


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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Weiye Chen wrote: First name = Given name Last name = Family name Also: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Last name == Surname == Family name Not sure if you can have multiple last names, but you can have multiple first names. e.g. Paul and Michael are my Given names and then Watson is my Family name. You do get double-barrell last names. e.g. Smith-Brown. But that is just odd to voluntarily do IMO.

                      Paul Watson
                      Bluegrass
                      Cape Town, South Africa

                      Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                      Jon Newman
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                      Paul Watson wrote: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Since you included surname, you should mention Forename.


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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Weiye Chen wrote: First name = Given name Last name = Family name Also: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Last name == Surname == Family name Not sure if you can have multiple last names, but you can have multiple first names. e.g. Paul and Michael are my Given names and then Watson is my Family name. You do get double-barrell last names. e.g. Smith-Brown. But that is just odd to voluntarily do IMO.

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town, South Africa

                        Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish


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                        • N Nnamdi Onyeyiri

                          yeah, all geeks have a reason for making things complicated ;)


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                          Jon Newman
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                          What about people who over complicate things for no reason? like you for example...


                          "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
                          -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

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                          • N Nick Seng

                            As Far As I Know. I should really stop using abbreviations :-O


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                            Jon Newman
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                            Yeah SSI


                            "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
                            -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

                            Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]

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                            • J Jon Newman

                              Paul Watson wrote: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Since you included surname, you should mention Forename.


                              "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
                              -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

                              Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]

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                              Paul Watson
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                              Jonny Newman wrote: you should mention Forename Quite right Jonathan. :)

                              Paul Watson
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                              Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish


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                                Stefan Pedersen
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                                So you have decided already? [name] seems a little weird though :)

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                                  Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish


                                  Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework [NW] (coming soon...) Summer Love and Some more Cricket [NW] (My first novel) Shog's review of SLASMC [NW] Come with me if you want to live

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Interesting stuff Nish, thanks. Sounds awfully confusing though. I know it is different around the world, but what I said applies for most western countries (UK, Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc.) Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms (I am sure you must have your own Indian terms rather than relying on British colonial rules).

                                  Paul Watson
                                  Bluegrass
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                                  Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                    Jonny Newman wrote: you should mention Forename Quite right Jonathan. :)

                                    Paul Watson
                                    Bluegrass
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                                    Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                    Jon Newman
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                                    Paul Watson wrote: Quite right Jonathan. Not even my mother calls me that. ;P


                                    "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
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                                      In Europe, mostly YES. There are some northern countries which take the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son ( Sigurd Olafson, his son's name is then Ole Sigurdson ... AFAIK, correct somebody me if not right...) But in central and western Europe, First Name is (parents) choice, Last Name is by birth...;)

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      Heh, reminds me of a beer that used to be produced here called Ohlsons lager. Good stuff that. Is that "the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son" tradition the whole "son of" thing? I wonder if Watson happened to be a son of Wat. :-D

                                      Paul Watson
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                                      Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                        Interesting stuff Nish, thanks. Sounds awfully confusing though. I know it is different around the world, but what I said applies for most western countries (UK, Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc.) Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms (I am sure you must have your own Indian terms rather than relying on British colonial rules).

                                        Paul Watson
                                        Bluegrass
                                        Cape Town, South Africa

                                        Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                        Weiye Chen
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                                        Paul Watson wrote: Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms Nope, i am not refering to western country, but just that my country seems to adopt western styles... :) Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                                        • J Jon Newman

                                          Paul Watson wrote: Quite right Jonathan. Not even my mother calls me that. ;P


                                          "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
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                                          Paul Watson
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                                          hehe, I was just running with the whole proper what what thing. Plus it is in your sig :) I take it your mum does not call you nonny though? One more reason I like my name; Paul. Hard to make that shorter. Of course I get the Paulies and if you are particularly clever the Paulas, but those are longer.

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                                          Bluegrass
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                                          Crikey! ain't life grand?

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