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  • P Paul Watson

    Weiye Chen wrote: First name = Given name Last name = Family name Also: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Last name == Surname == Family name Not sure if you can have multiple last names, but you can have multiple first names. e.g. Paul and Michael are my Given names and then Watson is my Family name. You do get double-barrell last names. e.g. Smith-Brown. But that is just odd to voluntarily do IMO.

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Crikey! ain't life grand?

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    Paul Watson wrote: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Since you included surname, you should mention Forename.


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    • P Paul Watson

      Weiye Chen wrote: First name = Given name Last name = Family name Also: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Last name == Surname == Family name Not sure if you can have multiple last names, but you can have multiple first names. e.g. Paul and Michael are my Given names and then Watson is my Family name. You do get double-barrell last names. e.g. Smith-Brown. But that is just odd to voluntarily do IMO.

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

      Crikey! ain't life grand?

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      Nish Nishant
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      Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish


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      • N Nnamdi Onyeyiri

        yeah, all geeks have a reason for making things complicated ;)


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        What about people who over complicate things for no reason? like you for example...


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        • N Nick Seng

          As Far As I Know. I should really stop using abbreviations :-O


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          Yeah SSI


          "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
          -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

          Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]

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          • J Jon Newman

            Paul Watson wrote: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Since you included surname, you should mention Forename.


            "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
            -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

            Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]

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            Paul Watson
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            Jonny Newman wrote: you should mention Forename Quite right Jonathan. :)

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Crikey! ain't life grand?

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              Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish


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              So you have decided already? [name] seems a little weird though :)

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish


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                Paul Watson
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                Interesting stuff Nish, thanks. Sounds awfully confusing though. I know it is different around the world, but what I said applies for most western countries (UK, Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc.) Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms (I am sure you must have your own Indian terms rather than relying on British colonial rules).

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Jonny Newman wrote: you should mention Forename Quite right Jonathan. :)

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                  Paul Watson wrote: Quite right Jonathan. Not even my mother calls me that. ;P


                  "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
                  -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

                  Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]

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                  • O Olli

                    In Europe, mostly YES. There are some northern countries which take the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son ( Sigurd Olafson, his son's name is then Ole Sigurdson ... AFAIK, correct somebody me if not right...) But in central and western Europe, First Name is (parents) choice, Last Name is by birth...;)

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Heh, reminds me of a beer that used to be produced here called Ohlsons lager. Good stuff that. Is that "the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son" tradition the whole "son of" thing? I wonder if Watson happened to be a son of Wat. :-D

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Interesting stuff Nish, thanks. Sounds awfully confusing though. I know it is different around the world, but what I said applies for most western countries (UK, Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc.) Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms (I am sure you must have your own Indian terms rather than relying on British colonial rules).

                      Paul Watson
                      Bluegrass
                      Cape Town, South Africa

                      Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                      Weiye Chen
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                      Paul Watson wrote: Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms Nope, i am not refering to western country, but just that my country seems to adopt western styles... :) Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                      • J Jon Newman

                        Paul Watson wrote: Quite right Jonathan. Not even my mother calls me that. ;P


                        "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
                        -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

                        Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]

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                        Paul Watson
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                        hehe, I was just running with the whole proper what what thing. Plus it is in your sig :) I take it your mum does not call you nonny though? One more reason I like my name; Paul. Hard to make that shorter. Of course I get the Paulies and if you are particularly clever the Paulas, but those are longer.

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town, South Africa

                        Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                        • J Jon Newman

                          Yeah SSI


                          "werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
                          -David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...

                          Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]

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                          Nick Seng
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                          :rolleyes:


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                          • S Stefan Pedersen

                            So you have decided already? [name] seems a little weird though :)

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            Stefan Pedersen wrote: So you have decided already? [name] seems a little weird though :-D Nish


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                            • P Paul Watson

                              Interesting stuff Nish, thanks. Sounds awfully confusing though. I know it is different around the world, but what I said applies for most western countries (UK, Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc.) Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms (I am sure you must have your own Indian terms rather than relying on British colonial rules).

                              Paul Watson
                              Bluegrass
                              Cape Town, South Africa

                              Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Paul Watson wrote: Sounds awfully confusing though. It can get even more confusing. My mothers maiden name didn't have a surname, instead she had two initials J and S, where J was the first letter of her mother's first name and S was the first letter of her dad's first name. Then in some families girls get their mother's first name as initial (only initial, no expansion) and boys get their dad's. And most women, when they marry, change their names so that if Anju Mohan marries Arun Kumar, her married name becomes Anju Arun. Then there is the practice of adding your caste name to the end of your name. There are hindu-subcastes like Nair, Menon, Iyer, Iyengar, Chettiyar etc. and people have names like Gayathri Nair, Mohan Menon etc... It's considered a little odd these days to try and project your caste. Typically only the middle-to-upper caste people do this, as they think it's nice to make public their upper-caste-ness :-) Nish


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                              • P Paul Watson

                                hehe, I was just running with the whole proper what what thing. Plus it is in your sig :) I take it your mum does not call you nonny though? One more reason I like my name; Paul. Hard to make that shorter. Of course I get the Paulies and if you are particularly clever the Paulas, but those are longer.

                                Paul Watson
                                Bluegrass
                                Cape Town, South Africa

                                Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                Paul Watson wrote: Plus it is in your sig I'll let you off ;-P Paul Watson wrote: I take it your mum does not call you nonny though? No, she calls me Jonny. My dad called me Nonny for a while, but has gone back to "Jon Boy". To most of the world I am Nonny. Even though it wasn't my choice of nickname. One of my best friends father doesn't know my real name I don't think. He's allways known me as 'Nonny' :~


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                                • W Weiye Chen

                                  Nick Seng wrote: It's usually arranged Last Name : First Name : Middle Name* Isn't it Last Name(Surname) : Middle Name : First Name ? So for my name, it would be Chen Wei Ye (though the middle and first name normally are appended together) This first name last name middle name thing are driving me crazy!!:mad: Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...

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                                  Nick Seng
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                                  Weiye Chen wrote: are driving me crazy!! Tell me about it!. A long time ago, I decided to just use the name 'Nick' as my first name. Saves a lot of trouble, I tell you.


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                                    Paul Watson wrote: Sounds awfully confusing though. It can get even more confusing. My mothers maiden name didn't have a surname, instead she had two initials J and S, where J was the first letter of her mother's first name and S was the first letter of her dad's first name. Then in some families girls get their mother's first name as initial (only initial, no expansion) and boys get their dad's. And most women, when they marry, change their names so that if Anju Mohan marries Arun Kumar, her married name becomes Anju Arun. Then there is the practice of adding your caste name to the end of your name. There are hindu-subcastes like Nair, Menon, Iyer, Iyengar, Chettiyar etc. and people have names like Gayathri Nair, Mohan Menon etc... It's considered a little odd these days to try and project your caste. Typically only the middle-to-upper caste people do this, as they think it's nice to make public their upper-caste-ness :-) Nish


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                                    Paul Watson
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                                    Crikey, I would hate to be born a bastard in India. Probably end up with an acronym as my name. How on Earth do you keep track of it all? No, actually, don't answer that. I am glad it works for you guys, but insanity is thy name!

                                    Paul Watson
                                    Bluegrass
                                    Cape Town, South Africa

                                    Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                      Heh, reminds me of a beer that used to be produced here called Ohlsons lager. Good stuff that. Is that "the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son" tradition the whole "son of" thing? I wonder if Watson happened to be a son of Wat. :-D

                                      Paul Watson
                                      Bluegrass
                                      Cape Town, South Africa

                                      Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                      Paul Watson wrote: I wonder if Watson happened to be a son of Wat. Hmm, maybe your father (or grandfather...) was deaf and the conversation at the regestry office was something like this:

                                      Pauls ancestor: Good morning. I have a newborn son.
                                      Regestry office guy: Oh, congratulations sir. So what's your name please?
                                      p.a.: What?
                                      r.o.g.: Sorry, your name please, sir...
                                      p.g.: What?!
                                      r.o.g.: Ok, Mr. wat. So what should be the name of your son, sir?
                                      p.g.: Name, err Paul...
                                      r.o.g.: Ok, Sir. Then the whole name is Paul Watson. Thank you very much. NEXT PLEASE.
                                      ...
                                      :doh:

                                      .... :D ;) just kidding a little bit...

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                                        Paul Watson wrote: I wonder if Watson happened to be a son of Wat. Hmm, maybe your father (or grandfather...) was deaf and the conversation at the regestry office was something like this:

                                        Pauls ancestor: Good morning. I have a newborn son.
                                        Regestry office guy: Oh, congratulations sir. So what's your name please?
                                        p.a.: What?
                                        r.o.g.: Sorry, your name please, sir...
                                        p.g.: What?!
                                        r.o.g.: Ok, Mr. wat. So what should be the name of your son, sir?
                                        p.g.: Name, err Paul...
                                        r.o.g.: Ok, Sir. Then the whole name is Paul Watson. Thank you very much. NEXT PLEASE.
                                        ...
                                        :doh:

                                        .... :D ;) just kidding a little bit...

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                                        :laugh: No worries, I had a good laff over that, thanks. Better than people assuming I am named afer Sherlock Holmes' side-kick or the shoe company. If I hear one more "Hey, whats on Watson?" joke or "Elementary my dear... *hyuk* *hyuk* *hyuk* " quip I will go postal.

                                        Paul Watson
                                        Bluegrass
                                        Cape Town, South Africa

                                        Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                          :laugh: No worries, I had a good laff over that, thanks. Better than people assuming I am named afer Sherlock Holmes' side-kick or the shoe company. If I hear one more "Hey, whats on Watson?" joke or "Elementary my dear... *hyuk* *hyuk* *hyuk* " quip I will go postal.

                                          Paul Watson
                                          Bluegrass
                                          Cape Town, South Africa

                                          Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                          Olli
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                                          Paul Watson wrote: "Hey, whats on Watson?" :| I'm a little afraid to comment that, but I like playing with words, so this one not so bad... BTW: My name is fehr, which is prenounced like fair, which is not fair I think... but that's only fair I think.. :-D

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