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First name = Given name Last name = Family name Am i right? :confused: Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
In Europe, mostly YES. There are some northern countries which take the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son ( Sigurd Olafson, his son's name is then Ole Sigurdson ... AFAIK, correct somebody me if not right...) But in central and western Europe, First Name is (parents) choice, Last Name is by birth...;)
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Nnamdi Onyeyiri wrote: a typical geek, just couldnt leave it simple, you had to go deeper :laugh: I just thought it might be helpful if he was informed of all the possibilities so that when he ran across Christian Name he would know what it meant. :)
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Bluegrass
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yeah, all geeks have a reason for making things complicated ;)
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Weiye Chen wrote: First name = Given name Last name = Family name Also: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Last name == Surname == Family name Not sure if you can have multiple last names, but you can have multiple first names. e.g. Paul and Michael are my Given names and then Watson is my Family name. You do get double-barrell last names. e.g. Smith-Brown. But that is just odd to voluntarily do IMO.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Since you included surname, you should mention Forename.
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Weiye Chen wrote: First name = Given name Last name = Family name Also: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Last name == Surname == Family name Not sure if you can have multiple last names, but you can have multiple first names. e.g. Paul and Michael are my Given names and then Watson is my Family name. You do get double-barrell last names. e.g. Smith-Brown. But that is just odd to voluntarily do IMO.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish
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yeah, all geeks have a reason for making things complicated ;)
To those who didn't make it, we will remember you. To those who did :bob: is back. - Megan Forbes in Black Friday
Another Post by NnamdiOnyeyiriWhat about people who over complicate things for no reason? like you for example...
"werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
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As Far As I Know. I should really stop using abbreviations :-O
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Yeah SSI
"werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
-David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...
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Paul Watson wrote: First Name(s) == Christian name(s) == Given name(s) Since you included surname, you should mention Forename.
"werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
-David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]Jonny Newman wrote: you should mention Forename Quite right Jonathan. :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
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Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish
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So you have decided already? [name] seems a little weird though :)
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Paul It's not that way here in South India. Let's say there is a guy John Mathew. Now if his son is named Peter, his name will be Peter John and not Peter Mathew :-) And Peter's son Alex will be Alex Peter. And in fact most people don't even expand their surname. My official name on all legal records in India is Nishant S But when I went to the US I had to use Nishant Sivakumar because they didn't accept a one-character surname If I have a son his name will be [name] Nishant or [name] N where [name] is what we name him. Nish
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Interesting stuff Nish, thanks. Sounds awfully confusing though. I know it is different around the world, but what I said applies for most western countries (UK, Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc.) Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms (I am sure you must have your own Indian terms rather than relying on British colonial rules).
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
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Jonny Newman wrote: you should mention Forename Quite right Jonathan. :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Quite right Jonathan. Not even my mother calls me that. ;P
"werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
-David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...
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In Europe, mostly YES. There are some northern countries which take the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son ( Sigurd Olafson, his son's name is then Ole Sigurdson ... AFAIK, correct somebody me if not right...) But in central and western Europe, First Name is (parents) choice, Last Name is by birth...;)
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:beer: + :java: = NULL :=> X|Heh, reminds me of a beer that used to be produced here called Ohlsons lager. Good stuff that. Is that "the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son" tradition the whole "son of" thing? I wonder if Watson happened to be a son of Wat. :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
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Interesting stuff Nish, thanks. Sounds awfully confusing though. I know it is different around the world, but what I said applies for most western countries (UK, Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc.) Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms (I am sure you must have your own Indian terms rather than relying on British colonial rules).
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms Nope, i am not refering to western country, but just that my country seems to adopt western styles... :) Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
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Paul Watson wrote: Quite right Jonathan. Not even my mother calls me that. ;P
"werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
-David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^]hehe, I was just running with the whole proper what what thing. Plus it is in your sig :) I take it your mum does not call you nonny though? One more reason I like my name; Paul. Hard to make that shorter. Of course I get the Paulies and if you are particularly clever the Paulas, but those are longer.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
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Yeah SSI
"werewnt we going to run off and start a convent on as islandf]"
-David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...
Jonathan 'nonny' Newman Homepage [www.nonny.com] [^] Bob Chum Dev site [^] -
Interesting stuff Nish, thanks. Sounds awfully confusing though. I know it is different around the world, but what I said applies for most western countries (UK, Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc.) Also I assumed he was referring to a western country as he used western terms (I am sure you must have your own Indian terms rather than relying on British colonial rules).
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Sounds awfully confusing though. It can get even more confusing. My mothers maiden name didn't have a surname, instead she had two initials J and S, where J was the first letter of her mother's first name and S was the first letter of her dad's first name. Then in some families girls get their mother's first name as initial (only initial, no expansion) and boys get their dad's. And most women, when they marry, change their names so that if Anju Mohan marries Arun Kumar, her married name becomes Anju Arun. Then there is the practice of adding your caste name to the end of your name. There are hindu-subcastes like Nair, Menon, Iyer, Iyengar, Chettiyar etc. and people have names like Gayathri Nair, Mohan Menon etc... It's considered a little odd these days to try and project your caste. Typically only the middle-to-upper caste people do this, as they think it's nice to make public their upper-caste-ness :-) Nish
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So you have decided already? [name] seems a little weird though :)
Stefan Pedersen wrote: So you have decided already? [name] seems a little weird though :-D Nish
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hehe, I was just running with the whole proper what what thing. Plus it is in your sig :) I take it your mum does not call you nonny though? One more reason I like my name; Paul. Hard to make that shorter. Of course I get the Paulies and if you are particularly clever the Paulas, but those are longer.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Plus it is in your sig I'll let you off ;-P Paul Watson wrote: I take it your mum does not call you nonny though? No, she calls me Jonny. My dad called me Nonny for a while, but has gone back to "Jon Boy". To most of the world I am Nonny. Even though it wasn't my choice of nickname. One of my best friends father doesn't know my real name I don't think. He's allways known me as 'Nonny' :~
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-David Wulff, again on MSN while plastered...
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Nick Seng wrote: It's usually arranged Last Name : First Name : Middle Name* Isn't it Last Name(Surname) : Middle Name : First Name ? So for my name, it would be Chen Wei Ye (though the middle and first name normally are appended together) This first name last name middle name thing are driving me crazy!!:mad: Weiye, Chen When pursuing your dreams, don't forget to enjoy your life...
Weiye Chen wrote: are driving me crazy!! Tell me about it!. A long time ago, I decided to just use the name 'Nick' as my first name. Saves a lot of trouble, I tell you.
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Paul Watson wrote: Sounds awfully confusing though. It can get even more confusing. My mothers maiden name didn't have a surname, instead she had two initials J and S, where J was the first letter of her mother's first name and S was the first letter of her dad's first name. Then in some families girls get their mother's first name as initial (only initial, no expansion) and boys get their dad's. And most women, when they marry, change their names so that if Anju Mohan marries Arun Kumar, her married name becomes Anju Arun. Then there is the practice of adding your caste name to the end of your name. There are hindu-subcastes like Nair, Menon, Iyer, Iyengar, Chettiyar etc. and people have names like Gayathri Nair, Mohan Menon etc... It's considered a little odd these days to try and project your caste. Typically only the middle-to-upper caste people do this, as they think it's nice to make public their upper-caste-ness :-) Nish
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Crikey, I would hate to be born a bastard in India. Probably end up with an acronym as my name. How on Earth do you keep track of it all? No, actually, don't answer that. I am glad it works for you guys, but insanity is thy name!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
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Heh, reminds me of a beer that used to be produced here called Ohlsons lager. Good stuff that. Is that "the first name of the father as last name of the children adding some endings like son" tradition the whole "son of" thing? I wonder if Watson happened to be a son of Wat. :-D
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaCrikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: I wonder if Watson happened to be a son of Wat. Hmm, maybe your father (or grandfather...) was deaf and the conversation at the regestry office was something like this:
Pauls ancestor: Good morning. I have a newborn son.
Regestry office guy: Oh, congratulations sir. So what's your name please?
p.a.: What?
r.o.g.: Sorry, your name please, sir...
p.g.: What?!
r.o.g.: Ok, Mr. wat. So what should be the name of your son, sir?
p.g.: Name, err Paul...
r.o.g.: Ok, Sir. Then the whole name is Paul Watson. Thank you very much. NEXT PLEASE.
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:doh:.... :D ;) just kidding a little bit...
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