Everyones favorite subject - Outsourcing!
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Rohit Sinha wrote: You'll not only be able to see the pattern, you'll also be able to photograph it and distribute copies to everyone. :laugh: Yeah, I don't doubt it. I was just having a little fun with Nish as he has a tendency to look on the gloomy side of things. If he ever figures out that much of being happy or sad is personal choice, can you imagine what a Supercharged Nish we'll see? :-D Chistopher Duncan The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success
I'm sure Nish knows how to be happy. Just that he wants more in life. :-D Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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Christopher Duncan wrote: Well, you were living in America for a while, but you didn't like it here, either. Let's see, unhappy in India, unhappy in America, unhappy again in India, hmmm. Is there a pattern forming somewhere here? LOL :-D Trivandrum has everything I want except bandwidth, good roads and snow! CA had bandwidth and good roads, but no snow + some of the other things I wanted in life (basically my loved ones) I guess my mental temperament is such that I'll never ever be able to say, "Now I am perfectly happy". My mom always says, "he always wants something more". Seems even as a baby/kid I was never happy with my toys and somehow kept asking for more stuff. I guess some day in the distant future when I have an OC-3 line of my own, I'd ask for a dinner date with Heather Graham :sigh: Nish
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Nishant S wrote: I guess my mental temperament is such that I'll never ever be able to say, "Now I am perfectly happy". Just like me. :sigh: But right now, all I want is her* to say "Yes". (I'm yet to ask, though) * my GF, not Heather Graham, in case you're wondering. Vikram.
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Ques : Why are Vikram, Rohit and Nish awake well past midnight when they have to wake up early tomorrow morning? Ans : Thats the only time of day when they can load a page without falling asleep due to sheer boredom from waiting. Nish :-D
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<> Yeah. Besides, this is the only time CP is really active. Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
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Ques : Why are Vikram, Rohit and Nish awake well past midnight when they have to wake up early tomorrow morning? Ans : Thats the only time of day when they can load a page without falling asleep due to sheer boredom from waiting. Nish :-D
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ROTFL! One technical point, though: Nishant S wrote: Why are Vikram, Rohit and Nish awake well past midnight when they have to wake up early tomorrow morning? Speak for yourself- I'm having my sem hols now, and I have no intention of waking up before 8 AM (which is scandalous in my house). Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
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Nishant S wrote: I guess my mental temperament is such that I'll never ever be able to say, "Now I am perfectly happy". Just like me. :sigh: But right now, all I want is her* to say "Yes". (I'm yet to ask, though) * my GF, not Heather Graham, in case you're wondering. Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
Vikram Punathambekar wrote: But right now, all I want is her* to say "Yes". (I'm yet to ask, though) Uhm how will she say "yes" if you dont ask? Some guys are scared of asking cause they fear its too early and that she'd say "no". The point they miss is that you can always keep asking till she either hits you on the head with a sand bag or says "yes". Either way you are in for trouble :-) Nish
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Ah OK, B'lore is a cool place indeed. But what I actually wanted to know was the ISP's name. Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
Rohit Sinha wrote: But what I actually wanted to know was the ISP's name. Sorry, I didn't even bother to ask them. If you need to know, I can email them... Guess I'll turn in for the day. Sleep tight, Rohit! :zzz: Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
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ROTFL! One technical point, though: Nishant S wrote: Why are Vikram, Rohit and Nish awake well past midnight when they have to wake up early tomorrow morning? Speak for yourself- I'm having my sem hols now, and I have no intention of waking up before 8 AM (which is scandalous in my house). Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
Vikram Punathambekar wrote: and I have no intention of waking up before 8 AM (which is scandalous in my house). Uhm, does it reflect badly on my discipline if I admit here that by "early" I meant about 8:30-9:00? :~ Nish p.s. Smart house-hold by the way :-) The best hours of sleep are after 7 AM in the morning!
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: But right now, all I want is her* to say "Yes". (I'm yet to ask, though) Uhm how will she say "yes" if you dont ask? Some guys are scared of asking cause they fear its too early and that she'd say "no". The point they miss is that you can always keep asking till she either hits you on the head with a sand bag or says "yes". Either way you are in for trouble :-) Nish
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Thanks for your comments, Nish. Nishant S wrote: Uhm how will she say "yes" if you dont ask? Some guys are scared of asking cause they fear its too early and that she'd say "no". I know that perfectly well. In fact, I've been meaning to ask for more than a month, but she's away at her college hostel. ( I can't do it on the phone or thru the Net- it'll have to be face to face) That's the only thing I'm waiting for. I think I'll sneak up to her college and surprise her... :) Nishant S wrote: says "yes". Either way you are in for trouble [voice type="threatening"]Wait till Smitha hears this![/voice] :laugh: Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
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I'm sure Nish knows how to be happy. Just that he wants more in life. :-D Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
Rohit Sinha wrote: I'm sure Nish knows how to be happy. :-D You bet I do. Its the ones that have had really happy moments in life that can feel really sad! Extreme forms of both happiness and sadness both require a certain emotional strain and I seem to have it in good dosage! Nish
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Rohit Sinha wrote: But what I actually wanted to know was the ISP's name. Sorry, I didn't even bother to ask them. If you need to know, I can email them... Guess I'll turn in for the day. Sleep tight, Rohit! :zzz: Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
You are the one who's turning in, right? So why asking me to sleep tight? ;P Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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And all US development is bug free, on time and under budget, right? Come on chaps. There is no clear cut "outsourcing is bad, stick with us" rule. You will get bad outsourcers as you will get bad local dev. Both have their challenges, their pros and cons. Weigh it up and pick what is right for the task at hand. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Come on chaps. There is no clear cut "outsourcing is bad, stick with us" rule. You will get bad outsourcers as you will get bad local dev. Both have their challenges, their pros and cons. Too true. A corporate I was working for has outsourced the development of their new reservation system, they hired an team from India to do a proof of concept model. It was great, ASP.NET talking to a third party back-end system via TCP/IP (3 months they worked on it). Nice code, great documentation. Sadly, the corporation decided to use a firm in America who have not even managed to get a simple desktop system running yet. (10 months and counting) Just goes to show there are bad developers in every country. Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
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Thanks for your comments, Nish. Nishant S wrote: Uhm how will she say "yes" if you dont ask? Some guys are scared of asking cause they fear its too early and that she'd say "no". I know that perfectly well. In fact, I've been meaning to ask for more than a month, but she's away at her college hostel. ( I can't do it on the phone or thru the Net- it'll have to be face to face) That's the only thing I'm waiting for. I think I'll sneak up to her college and surprise her... :) Nishant S wrote: says "yes". Either way you are in for trouble [voice type="threatening"]Wait till Smitha hears this![/voice] :laugh: Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
Vikram Punathambekar wrote: [voice type="threatening"]Wait till Smitha hears this![/voice] :-D Lets hope there are so many threads today/tonight so that she'll definitely miss this post by the time she comes online tomorrow ;-) Nish
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: and I have no intention of waking up before 8 AM (which is scandalous in my house). Uhm, does it reflect badly on my discipline if I admit here that by "early" I meant about 8:30-9:00? :~ Nish p.s. Smart house-hold by the way :-) The best hours of sleep are after 7 AM in the morning!
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Nishant S wrote: by "early" I meant about 8:30-9:00? :wtf: Nishant S wrote: The best hours of sleep are after 7 AM in the morning! The amount of sleep needed by the average person is 10 minutes more. Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
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Nishant S wrote: by "early" I meant about 8:30-9:00? :wtf: Nishant S wrote: The best hours of sleep are after 7 AM in the morning! The amount of sleep needed by the average person is 10 minutes more. Vikram.
I believe your most attractive features are your heart and soul, I believe that family is worth more than money or gold. - Affirmation, by Savage Garden. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.
Vikram Punathambekar wrote: The amount of sleep needed by the average person is 10 minutes more. 10 mins more than what? :confused: BTW when I said 7 AM, I didnt mean - go to sleep at 7 AM. What I meant is that irrespective of when you go to bed, waking up at around 7 AM - say to answer the phone - and then going back to bed - as you know you can sleep till 9 - is absolute bliss! Nish
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Nishant S wrote: The max speed I get is 6 KB/s and during day times I usually get 1-1.5 KB/s. In Durgapur we don't even have cable internet. :( But my dial up is better than what you have. I normally get at least 3-4 KB/s. At peak times, in the night usually, I get 6-7KB/s. Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
Ah the joys of American DSL. 70 KB/s, pleaaaaaaze. The graveyards are filled with indispensible men.
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And all US development is bug free, on time and under budget, right? Come on chaps. There is no clear cut "outsourcing is bad, stick with us" rule. You will get bad outsourcers as you will get bad local dev. Both have their challenges, their pros and cons. Weigh it up and pick what is right for the task at hand. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Both have their challenges, their pros and cons. Yup. A big one with local dev is you can walk over and slap talk to the guy who messed it up. Assuming he hasn't been laid off / left... (but yeah, shitty code can come from all corners)
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Vikram Punathambekar wrote: [voice type="threatening"]Wait till Smitha hears this![/voice] :-D Lets hope there are so many threads today/tonight so that she'll definitely miss this post by the time she comes online tomorrow ;-) Nish
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I'll be sure to email her a copy...:-D "Your village called -
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I'll be sure to email her a copy...:-D "Your village called -
They're missing their idiot."Just the link will do, I'm sure. :-D Regards, Rohit Sinha Browsy
Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person. - Mother Teresa
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Christopher Duncan wrote: Well, you were living in America for a while, but you didn't like it here, either. Let's see, unhappy in India, unhappy in America, unhappy again in India, hmmm. Is there a pattern forming somewhere here? LOL :-D Trivandrum has everything I want except bandwidth, good roads and snow! CA had bandwidth and good roads, but no snow + some of the other things I wanted in life (basically my loved ones) I guess my mental temperament is such that I'll never ever be able to say, "Now I am perfectly happy". My mom always says, "he always wants something more". Seems even as a baby/kid I was never happy with my toys and somehow kept asking for more stuff. I guess some day in the distant future when I have an OC-3 line of my own, I'd ask for a dinner date with Heather Graham :sigh: Nish
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Nishant S wrote: no snow I assume you're talking about Mountain View, because certain parts of CA definitely have snow. :)
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I'll be sure to email her a copy...:-D "Your village called -
They're missing their idiot."Thanks Rog, you always care abt me :-D Smitha Every person, all the events of your life, are there because you have drawn them there. What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach