I Just Tried Firefox
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Anders Molin wrote: Lets hope it get better in time... Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
Marc Clifton wrote: Why? LOL, yeah, I don't know why ;) Marc, you are evil ;P - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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but hey , they do follow the w3c standards sooo good. never mind what the defacto standard is in the real world. //Roger
That might be, but when things look like crap in it, I really don't care. And no, I'm not a web developer ;) (Only simple stuff when forced to it) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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When posting a message the editboxes are not the same width, and the "toolbar" with the emoticons does not exactly look pretty either, as the spacing between the bitmaps are kinda large, so I have to scroll horz. to see them all. Ale the formatting buttons are missing. Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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That might be, but when things look like crap in it, I really don't care. And no, I'm not a web developer ;) (Only simple stuff when forced to it) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Anders Molin wrote: That might be, but when things look like crap in it, I really don't care I know what you mean. IE is much more tolerant of pages that don't exactly follow the standards. In fact the Halifax web site (which is where I do my share dealing) goes nut in FireFox. And the Royal Bank of Scotland web site will work with FireFox until you try and log into your accounts then it says that they only trust Netscape and Navigator and won't permit access for "security" reasons.
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Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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MyIE2 should solve your problem[^]:cool:
// Steve McLenithan
Who is remote client and what has he done with my VPN connection?
Ok After this discussion I installed ie2 (from firefox) and started using it. One complaint so far. I check google in the searches toolbar. But whenever I search it still turns up results from steadysearch. What on earth is steadysearch and why would I want it over google ?!:) \edit Ok looks like hitting enter sends it to steadysearch and using the search icon takes it to google. Still this doesn't look so impressive. \edit " Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ? "
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Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
There's really not much different between the 2 browsers. It's mostly in the DHTML/javascript area which is why they haven't bothered to make the edit features work in FireFox. If it was just plain firefox I probably wouldn't use it, but the addins found here have made all the difference. Since I do a lot of web development, I use the development shortcut tool bar. Also, I'm addicted to gestures. It took a while to get used to them, but they are so much easier and faster then buttons or context menus. Also, the tabbed browsing thing is cool. I use that quite a bit. Though, I have to admit, that I do have to use the open in IE shortcut more often then I like. Also, since I've done web development for a while, I tend to look at sites that have poor cross browser as a weakness of the site rather then the browser.
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Anders Molin wrote: Lets hope it get better in time... Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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MyIE2 should solve your problem[^]:cool:
// Steve McLenithan
Who is remote client and what has he done with my VPN connection?
I real prefer Slim Browser.[^] It's IE with tabbed browsed and ad blocking as well. I just turn off skins after I install it and it's fine. It's got very nice 'new URL' feature, where it opens up a new tab if a new URL is entered in. I've been using it for the last few months and I haven't had a problem with it other than a few popups here and there, in which AdAware likes to kill the whole browser. I don't care for Netscape or Mozilla/FireFox. And Opera is just a god-awful POS. I have found SlimBrowser a fine alternative to using multiple IE windows.
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Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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When posting a message the editboxes are not the same width, and the "toolbar" with the emoticons does not exactly look pretty either, as the spacing between the bitmaps are kinda large, so I have to scroll horz. to see them all. Ale the formatting buttons are missing. Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Anders Molin wrote: Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" So, why not just state this instead of the making statements like "What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject"? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Hehe, I agree with you and I guess thats way it's still a beta... Wonder of they will ever release version 1.0, and what the name might be ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: Interesting. I have been using it for a long time and CP looks fine! True, the poster seems to have a problem, and I do not know why he attributed it to Firefox! Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Anders Molin wrote: Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" So, why not just state this instead of the making statements like "What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject"? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
I had just the opposite experience with your site. Came up fine the first time I hit it. When I refreshed the browser, all the tables were strangely arranged. I agree, though. If the browser can render it fine one time, why not all the time. "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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Hmmm, just tried it too and saw no problem. May be they have something in their eyes :~ Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Ok After this discussion I installed ie2 (from firefox) and started using it. One complaint so far. I check google in the searches toolbar. But whenever I search it still turns up results from steadysearch. What on earth is steadysearch and why would I want it over google ?!:) \edit Ok looks like hitting enter sends it to steadysearch and using the search icon takes it to google. Still this doesn't look so impressive. \edit " Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ? "
I know, that is buggy. Just install the stardard Google Toolbar and then enable the IE plugin for google in the MyIE2 options. Then it will show up just like in IE.
// Steve McLenithan
Who is remote client and what has he done with my VPN connection?
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That's what I mean. Every once in a while it comes up and display like crap. I hit refresh and its fine. In fact, I've had a few ppl send me emails stating that they can't view it in FF. I tell them to refresh and it works for them too at that point. It's very odd - and extremely frustrating. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework