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  • A Anders Molin

    Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

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    l a u r e n
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    yah its tedious when it sticks to the "standard" so much but its good for testing a site to be compliant ive found if it works in firefox it works in ie the reverse is so not true


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      MyIE2 should solve your problem[^]:cool:

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      Ok After this discussion I installed ie2 (from firefox) and started using it. One complaint so far. I check google in the searches toolbar. But whenever I search it still turns up results from steadysearch. What on earth is steadysearch and why would I want it over google ?!:) \edit Ok looks like hitting enter sends it to steadysearch and using the search icon takes it to google. Still this doesn't look so impressive. \edit " Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ? "

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      • A Anders Molin

        Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

        My Photos[^]

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        Andy Brummer
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        There's really not much different between the 2 browsers. It's mostly in the DHTML/javascript area which is why they haven't bothered to make the edit features work in FireFox. If it was just plain firefox I probably wouldn't use it, but the addins found here have made all the difference. Since I do a lot of web development, I use the development shortcut tool bar. Also, I'm addicted to gestures. It took a while to get used to them, but they are so much easier and faster then buttons or context menus. Also, the tabbed browsing thing is cool. I use that quite a bit. Though, I have to admit, that I do have to use the open in IE shortcut more often then I like. Also, since I've done web development for a while, I tend to look at sites that have poor cross browser as a weakness of the site rather then the browser.


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          Anders Molin wrote: Lets hope it get better in time... Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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          an almost religious belief in the proto-capitalistic virtue of competition, maybe? :rolleyes: good question, indeed.


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            I real prefer Slim Browser.[^] It's IE with tabbed browsed and ad blocking as well. I just turn off skins after I install it and it's fine. It's got very nice 'new URL' feature, where it opens up a new tab if a new URL is entered in. I've been using it for the last few months and I haven't had a problem with it other than a few popups here and there, in which AdAware likes to kill the whole browser. I don't care for Netscape or Mozilla/FireFox. And Opera is just a god-awful POS. I have found SlimBrowser a fine alternative to using multiple IE windows.


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            • A Anders Molin

              Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

              My Photos[^]

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              Tom Archer
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              Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                i opened ur site in firefox and it came up perfectly first time ??


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                • A Anders Molin

                  When posting a message the editboxes are not the same width, and the "toolbar" with the emoticons does not exactly look pretty either, as the spacing between the bitmaps are kinda large, so I have to scroll horz. to see them all. Ale the formatting buttons are missing. Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

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                  Anders Molin wrote: Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" So, why not just state this instead of the making statements like "What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject"? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                    Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                    Anders Molin
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                    Hehe, I agree with you and I guess thats way it's still a beta... Wonder of they will ever release version 1.0, and what the name might be ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

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                      Interesting. I have been using it for a long time and CP looks fine!


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                      Paul Selormey
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                      Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: Interesting. I have been using it for a long time and CP looks fine! True, the poster seems to have a problem, and I do not know why he attributed it to Firefox! Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                        Anders Molin wrote: Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" So, why not just state this instead of the making statements like "What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject"? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                        i have to agree with you here anders could have been less dramatic in his original post :cool:


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                          Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                          I had just the opposite experience with your site. Came up fine the first time I hit it. When I refreshed the browser, all the tables were strangely arranged. I agree, though. If the browser can render it fine one time, why not all the time. "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                            i opened ur site in firefox and it came up perfectly first time ??


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                            Paul Selormey
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                            Hmmm, just tried it too and saw no problem. May be they have something in their eyes :~ Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                              Ok After this discussion I installed ie2 (from firefox) and started using it. One complaint so far. I check google in the searches toolbar. But whenever I search it still turns up results from steadysearch. What on earth is steadysearch and why would I want it over google ?!:) \edit Ok looks like hitting enter sends it to steadysearch and using the search icon takes it to google. Still this doesn't look so impressive. \edit " Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ? "

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                              Steve McLenithan
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                              I know, that is buggy. Just install the stardard Google Toolbar and then enable the IE plugin for google in the MyIE2 options. Then it will show up just like in IE.

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                                i opened ur site in firefox and it came up perfectly first time ??


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                                Tom Archer
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                                That's what I mean. Every once in a while it comes up and display like crap. I hit refresh and its fine. In fact, I've had a few ppl send me emails stating that they can't view it in FF. I tell them to refresh and it works for them too at that point. It's very odd - and extremely frustrating. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                                  i opened ur site in firefox and it came up perfectly first time ??


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                                  Tom Archer
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                                  By the way, thanks for taking a look at the site for me! :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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                                    I real prefer Slim Browser.[^] It's IE with tabbed browsed and ad blocking as well. I just turn off skins after I install it and it's fine. It's got very nice 'new URL' feature, where it opens up a new tab if a new URL is entered in. I've been using it for the last few months and I haven't had a problem with it other than a few popups here and there, in which AdAware likes to kill the whole browser. I don't care for Netscape or Mozilla/FireFox. And Opera is just a god-awful POS. I have found SlimBrowser a fine alternative to using multiple IE windows.


                                    Who am I? Currently: A Programming Student trying to survive school with plan to go on to Univeristy of Advancing Technology to study game design. Main career interest include: Multimedia and game programming. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. My website: www.GP32US.com

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                                    Not bad

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                                      Anders Molin wrote: Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" So, why not just state this instead of the making statements like "What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject"? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                      Paul Selormey wrote: So, why not just state this instead of the making statements like "What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject"? Because many pages look like crap. Some look ok, but many other looks totally wrong. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

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                                        i have to agree with you here anders could have been less dramatic in his original post :cool:


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                                        Anders Molin
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                                        l a u r e n wrote: anders could have been less dramatic in his original post Look who's talking ;P Well, I think the browser sucks, and maybe some pages looks perfectly fine in it, but enough pages don't look fine, so I will not use it when I have a way better browser in IE 6. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]

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                                          I had just the opposite experience with your site. Came up fine the first time I hit it. When I refreshed the browser, all the tables were strangely arranged. I agree, though. If the browser can render it fine one time, why not all the time. "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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                                          the only think i can think of is that some of the data is being lost but how that could happen is beyond me


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