I Just Tried Firefox
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Hehe, I agree with you and I guess thats way it's still a beta... Wonder of they will ever release version 1.0, and what the name might be ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Unfortunately ppl want to run it like it's release code and complain when the site doesn't display correctly. Why oh why do we need yet another browser to worry about? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Really? I dont know, we both told our opinion about some software... Is your opinion more right than mine? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Ok After this discussion I installed ie2 (from firefox) and started using it. One complaint so far. I check google in the searches toolbar. But whenever I search it still turns up results from steadysearch. What on earth is steadysearch and why would I want it over google ?!:) \edit Ok looks like hitting enter sends it to steadysearch and using the search icon takes it to google. Still this doesn't look so impressive. \edit " Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ? "
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Unfortunately ppl want to run it like it's release code and complain when the site doesn't display correctly. Why oh why do we need yet another browser to worry about? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Tom Archer wrote: Unfortunately ppl want to run it like it's release code and complain when the site doesn't display correctly. People want to complain about everything. Just look at the posts in this thread complaining about me posting bad things about Firefox. Tom Archer wrote: Why oh why do we need yet another browser to worry about? Hehe, I'm happy that I don't do much web development. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Then it's firefox that looses the data. TCP is a quite secure protocol when it comes to make sure the data reaches the destination. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
I've had trouble in Firefox with the File browse form control. I never took the time to look into because the script had limited use and the guy just used IE instead. I figured IE probably let me get away with something I shouldn't have been doing, but it still gave me a bad taste, and I haven't tried since. Maybe I'll wait a little longer. :) BW The Biggest Loser
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l a u r e n wrote: anders could have been less dramatic in his original post Look who's talking ;P Well, I think the browser sucks, and maybe some pages looks perfectly fine in it, but enough pages don't look fine, so I will not use it when I have a way better browser in IE 6. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Anders Molin wrote: Look who's talking Please you and Lauren should keep this thread to Firefox, nothing further. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Then it's firefox that looses the data. TCP is a quite secure protocol when it comes to make sure the data reaches the destination. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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The latest version of NS works fine, but Opera and FireFox both have the problem with my site. Oh well. I spent quite a bit of time on it and even had some web people crawl over the code. They all said they couldn't find anything wrong with the HTML. *sigh* Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Well, Netscape's problem with rendering used to be related to nested tables (it would even screw up the background color on cells). I've never used Firefox, but if I were looking into it the first thing I'd look for is how many tables I could get rid of while keeping the layout the same. BTW, when are you gonna send me your book? I've already bragged to my new coworkers about it, so it's like I have to deliver the goods now. :-O Jeremy Falcon
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Not below the belt. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Well, Netscape's problem with rendering used to be related to nested tables (it would even screw up the background color on cells). I've never used Firefox, but if I were looking into it the first thing I'd look for is how many tables I could get rid of while keeping the layout the same. BTW, when are you gonna send me your book? I've already bragged to my new coworkers about it, so it's like I have to deliver the goods now. :-O Jeremy Falcon
LOL! I'm absolutely terrible at remembering things like that, dude. Sorry. I get so darn busy that once I move onto the next thing the prev is ancient history :) Send me your addy and I'll get it in the mail tomorrow :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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It's your imagination. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Really? I dont know, we both told our opinion about some software... Is your opinion more right than mine? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Keep to the thread. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Tom Archer wrote: Unfortunately ppl want to run it like it's release code and complain when the site doesn't display correctly. People want to complain about everything. Just look at the posts in this thread complaining about me posting bad things about Firefox. Tom Archer wrote: Why oh why do we need yet another browser to worry about? Hehe, I'm happy that I don't do much web development. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
The only problem I have with web development is that there's too much mystery too it. Sort of like VB in that it does so much for you that when something doesn't work you don't seem to have a lot of control to find out what's going awry. I give the web guys/girls all the credit in the world. It's no easy task. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Keep to the thread. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Yes mister police officer, and same to you, - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Anders Molin wrote: Look who's talking Please you and Lauren should keep this thread to Firefox, nothing further. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Did you notice the smiley? this one: ;P Well, please stop keep padding lauren on the bag, telling stuff like "not below the belt", and at the same time tell me to stop. Lauren is old enough to speak for her self, ok? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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The only problem I have with web development is that there's too much mystery too it. Sort of like VB in that it does so much for you that when something doesn't work you don't seem to have a lot of control to find out what's going awry. I give the web guys/girls all the credit in the world. It's no easy task. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
WHen I have problems like that with web-stuff, I ask a friend of mine. He is an extreemly good web-developer, and fortunately he answars my stupid questions ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Did you notice the smiley? this one: ;P Well, please stop keep padding lauren on the bag, telling stuff like "not below the belt", and at the same time tell me to stop. Lauren is old enough to speak for her self, ok? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Anders Molin wrote: Lauren is old enough to speak for her self, ok? I know, it has nothing to do with age. May be, I misunderstood where both of you seems to be heading - sorry. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
I don't usually get dragged into flamewars about OS or browsers. But, I want to add a few things here. My first impression when I used Firebird was the same as yours. But then, I was used to IE. After using Firebird for a month, I can't switch back, because I am used to Firefox now, and it works on Linux and FreeBSD machines too. There are quirks. I don't care about having to refresh a page once in a while (The problem that Tom mentioned exists). As you said, you like IE, I like Firefox. It is a matter of personal choices, isn't it? But, when I hear stuff like "Why can't it be better than IE?". It may be, if everyone stops reading MSDN for HTML and CSS reference, and if most developers stopped writing code as if IE was the only browser around. Maybe, some spare cash from sales of two blockbuster products might help too. Personally, I appreciate the effort that these guys put in. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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See?! See?! I'm not seeing things!!! :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
You are not imagining things! :) I had this problem. Delving deeper into this problem, I found that there is a value for rendering timeout, ie, a time when the browser starts rendering pages. If the site is slower to send the pages than the rendering timeout, it seems that the page might not show up correctly. I think this is the problem because the problem was aggravated, when I reduced this timeout to force display sooner than the default. Maybe, it will get fixed in the next release. Thomas My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers