I Just Tried Firefox
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Anders Molin wrote: Might be minor stuff, but I think thats whats ruin the "browsing experience" So, why not just state this instead of the making statements like "What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject"? Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote: So, why not just state this instead of the making statements like "What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject"? Because many pages look like crap. Some look ok, but many other looks totally wrong. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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l a u r e n wrote: anders could have been less dramatic in his original post Look who's talking ;P Well, I think the browser sucks, and maybe some pages looks perfectly fine in it, but enough pages don't look fine, so I will not use it when I have a way better browser in IE 6. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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I had just the opposite experience with your site. Came up fine the first time I hit it. When I refreshed the browser, all the tables were strangely arranged. I agree, though. If the browser can render it fine one time, why not all the time. "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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l a u r e n wrote: anders could have been less dramatic in his original post Look who's talking ;P Well, I think the browser sucks, and maybe some pages looks perfectly fine in it, but enough pages don't look fine, so I will not use it when I have a way better browser in IE 6. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Anders Molin wrote: First impression: What a shitty browser THANK YOU!!!!!!! Freakin' FireFox produces nothing but heisenbugs with my site. 1. My site comes up with all the tables scrambled. 2. I refersh the "browser" 3. Voila! Site looks great. Sorry, but either the HTML is correct or its not. I should get the same results every time I see the same unmodified page. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Netscape 1.x-4.x always had that problem too. It wasn't until 6.1 is started happening less. Jeremy Falcon
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Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: Interesting. I have been using it for a long time and CP looks fine! True, the poster seems to have a problem, and I do not know why he attributed it to Firefox! Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote: True, the poster seems to have a problem, and I do not know why he attributed it to Firefox! Please Paul X| I attribute it to Firefox because it looks fine in IE and not Firefox... But maybe I downloaded a bad copy? :laugh: - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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I had just the opposite experience with your site. Came up fine the first time I hit it. When I refreshed the browser, all the tables were strangely arranged. I agree, though. If the browser can render it fine one time, why not all the time. "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
Yeah. Heisenbugs are the absolutely worst. I can understand them in a C/C++ app, but here nothing's different! Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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See?! See?! I'm not seeing things!!! :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Netscape 1.x-4.x always had that problem too. It wasn't until 6.1 is started happening less. Jeremy Falcon
The latest version of NS works fine, but Opera and FireFox both have the problem with my site. Oh well. I spent quite a bit of time on it and even had some web people crawl over the code. They all said they couldn't find anything wrong with the HTML. *sigh* Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Hehe, I agree with you and I guess thats way it's still a beta... Wonder of they will ever release version 1.0, and what the name might be ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Unfortunately ppl want to run it like it's release code and complain when the site doesn't display correctly. Why oh why do we need yet another browser to worry about? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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Really? I dont know, we both told our opinion about some software... Is your opinion more right than mine? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Ok After this discussion I installed ie2 (from firefox) and started using it. One complaint so far. I check google in the searches toolbar. But whenever I search it still turns up results from steadysearch. What on earth is steadysearch and why would I want it over google ?!:) \edit Ok looks like hitting enter sends it to steadysearch and using the search icon takes it to google. Still this doesn't look so impressive. \edit " Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ? "
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Unfortunately ppl want to run it like it's release code and complain when the site doesn't display correctly. Why oh why do we need yet another browser to worry about? Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Tom Archer wrote: Unfortunately ppl want to run it like it's release code and complain when the site doesn't display correctly. People want to complain about everything. Just look at the posts in this thread complaining about me posting bad things about Firefox. Tom Archer wrote: Why oh why do we need yet another browser to worry about? Hehe, I'm happy that I don't do much web development. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Then it's firefox that looses the data. TCP is a quite secure protocol when it comes to make sure the data reaches the destination. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Hmm, with all the talk and praise about Mozilla Firefox I thought I would give it a try... First impression: What a shitty browser, and most websites look like crap when viewed with it, including codeproject X| Well, it might do some things better than IE (wonder what things) but as long as it renders pages the way it do, I wont waste any more time with it for now... Lets hope it get better in time... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
I've had trouble in Firefox with the File browse form control. I never took the time to look into because the script had limited use and the guy just used IE instead. I figured IE probably let me get away with something I shouldn't have been doing, but it still gave me a bad taste, and I haven't tried since. Maybe I'll wait a little longer. :) BW The Biggest Loser
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l a u r e n wrote: anders could have been less dramatic in his original post Look who's talking ;P Well, I think the browser sucks, and maybe some pages looks perfectly fine in it, but enough pages don't look fine, so I will not use it when I have a way better browser in IE 6. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
Anders Molin wrote: Look who's talking Please you and Lauren should keep this thread to Firefox, nothing further. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Then it's firefox that looses the data. TCP is a quite secure protocol when it comes to make sure the data reaches the destination. - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" ShotKeeper, my Photo Album / Organizer Application[^]
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Not below the belt. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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The latest version of NS works fine, but Opera and FireFox both have the problem with my site. Oh well. I spent quite a bit of time on it and even had some web people crawl over the code. They all said they couldn't find anything wrong with the HTML. *sigh* Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
Well, Netscape's problem with rendering used to be related to nested tables (it would even screw up the background color on cells). I've never used Firefox, but if I were looking into it the first thing I'd look for is how many tables I could get rid of while keeping the layout the same. BTW, when are you gonna send me your book? I've already bragged to my new coworkers about it, so it's like I have to deliver the goods now. :-O Jeremy Falcon
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Well, Netscape's problem with rendering used to be related to nested tables (it would even screw up the background color on cells). I've never used Firefox, but if I were looking into it the first thing I'd look for is how many tables I could get rid of while keeping the layout the same. BTW, when are you gonna send me your book? I've already bragged to my new coworkers about it, so it's like I have to deliver the goods now. :-O Jeremy Falcon
LOL! I'm absolutely terrible at remembering things like that, dude. Sorry. I get so darn busy that once I move onto the next thing the prev is ancient history :) Send me your addy and I'll get it in the mail tomorrow :) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework