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    Marc Clifton
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    I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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      I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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      Colin Angus Mackay
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      Tax. In the UK the effective tax rate is around 400% It costs the oil companies 15-20p per litre to get the petrol to the pumps and the remainder of the cost is sent to Her Majesty's Treasury.


      "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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        Tax. In the UK the effective tax rate is around 400% It costs the oil companies 15-20p per litre to get the petrol to the pumps and the remainder of the cost is sent to Her Majesty's Treasury.


        "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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        OK. I agree with you. But the government would probably also argue that they are also trying to dissuade people from using cars, so that they might travel by some more environmentally friendly method like bus, train, tram etc. Visit Riverside Internet[^] Visit Mike Puddephat Online[^]

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          I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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          Rob Manderson
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          Don't forget that a US gallon is 25% smaller than a British gallon. For some reason the US pint is 16 fluid ounces whereas the British pint is (or at least was when I learned my measurements in Australia back in the 1960's) 20 fluid ounces*. As the one who trudges home daily with a gallon of milk in the shopping I have to say I'm glad the US gallon is smaller :) * of course this does beg the question of whether the US fluld ounce is the same size as the British fluid ounce. Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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            Don't forget that a US gallon is 25% smaller than a British gallon. For some reason the US pint is 16 fluid ounces whereas the British pint is (or at least was when I learned my measurements in Australia back in the 1960's) 20 fluid ounces*. As the one who trudges home daily with a gallon of milk in the shopping I have to say I'm glad the US gallon is smaller :) * of course this does beg the question of whether the US fluld ounce is the same size as the British fluid ounce. Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++

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            Rob Manderson wrote: Don't forget that a US gallon is 25% smaller than a British gallon. True, but one would hope that the article I read regarding the 3x cost accounted for that. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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              Tax. In the UK the effective tax rate is around 400% It costs the oil companies 15-20p per litre to get the petrol to the pumps and the remainder of the cost is sent to Her Majesty's Treasury.


              "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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              Colin Angus Mackay wrote: In the UK the effective tax rate is around 400% Wow. What do they do with that money? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                OK. I agree with you. But the government would probably also argue that they are also trying to dissuade people from using cars, so that they might travel by some more environmentally friendly method like bus, train, tram etc. Visit Riverside Internet[^] Visit Mike Puddephat Online[^]

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                Mike Puddephat wrote: dissuade people from using cars That really bugs me. :mad: The government treats all car users the same regardless of the availability of public transport in their area. I live in a smallish town where, if I didn't have a car, it would take at least 2 1/2 hours to get to work and require taking 2 trains and a bus. If I had a better memory I would remember more.

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                  I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                  Daniel Turini
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                  Marc Clifton wrote: I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Obvious: because, if they don't pay, their cars won't be much of use. :-D BTW, I'm glad that some places have set a big price on gasoline and oil: this ease things for those who wish to develop alternative power sources. Due to technical difficulties my previous signature, "I see dumb people" will be off until further notice. Too many people were thinking I was talking about them... :sigh:

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                    OK. I agree with you. But the government would probably also argue that they are also trying to dissuade people from using cars, so that they might travel by some more environmentally friendly method like bus, train, tram etc. Visit Riverside Internet[^] Visit Mike Puddephat Online[^]

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                    Mike Puddephat wrote: But the government would probably also argue that they are also trying to dissuade people from using cars, so that they might travel by some more environmentally friendly method like bus, train, tram e Very probable, but I think they would do better by making the trains run on time and be cancelled less often. Twice this week my train was cancelled and every other day it was running late. Many people at hearing the cancellation announcement just got in their cars and drove to work. I currently do less that 10000miles a year in my car, I used to do 26000 because of a 100 mile round-trip commute. If we assume that the average driver does somewhere in the middle, say 16500 miles per year, and that the tax element is 8pence per mile that works out at £1320 per year in tax (US$2376). Each day 16,476,377 people travel to work by car[^] and if we assume that is a good indicator of total car ownership then the tax received from all those people is £21,748,817,640 (US$39.1bn) each year. And that does not include the annual Road Fund Licence (which brings in another £2billion (US$3.85bn)) How much is the west coast mainline upgrade to cost? Over how many years is that cost spread? How much would it cost to create a French TGV service from London to Edinburgh/Glasgow? How many years would that take to build? (Thus over how many years would the cost be spread?)


                    "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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                      Rob Manderson wrote: Don't forget that a US gallon is 25% smaller than a British gallon. True, but one would hope that the article I read regarding the 3x cost accounted for that. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                      To help settle that part. When I was in California on earlier this year a US Gallon of Gas (petrol) was about $2.10 - $2.20. A US Gallon = 3.785 litres. All petrol prices in the UK are in litres. 1 litre of petrol in Edinburgh was about 79.9p (US$1.46). Which for one US Gallons is US$5.53 So that is 2.6 times more expensive.


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                        Colin Angus Mackay wrote: In the UK the effective tax rate is around 400% Wow. What do they do with that money? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                        Tea. And Biscuits. Ginger ones. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? XmlTransformer, my latest CP article.

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                          I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                          Perhaps we just get a bulk-rate discount... You know, like volume licensing :rolleyes: ~Nitron.


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                            Tea. And Biscuits. Ginger ones. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? XmlTransformer, my latest CP article.

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                            Colin Angus Mackay
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                            :laugh::laugh::laugh:


                            "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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                              I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                              I would love to have an electric car powered on lithium batteries. I saw one on TechTV a while back. They guys put it together by using something like 6,800 laptop batteries and it could be charged by plugging into your 110 power outlet. That sure would be handy ;) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com

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                                I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                                Antony M Kancidrowski
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                                Tax on fuel in the UK is extortionate. Approx. 80% of the cost! That is why when we come over to the states we don't care about filling up our 5 litre hire cars! ;P Ant.

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                                  Mike Puddephat wrote: dissuade people from using cars That really bugs me. :mad: The government treats all car users the same regardless of the availability of public transport in their area. I live in a smallish town where, if I didn't have a car, it would take at least 2 1/2 hours to get to work and require taking 2 trains and a bus. If I had a better memory I would remember more.

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                                  Suzanne Boyle wrote: if I didn't have a car, it would take at least 2 1/2 hours to get to work and require taking 2 trains and a bus U mean London ;P pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "They say there are strangers who threaten us, In our immigrants and infidels. They say there is strangeness too dangerous In our theaters and bookstore shelves. That those who know what's best for us Must rise and save us from ourselves." Rush

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                                    I would love to have an electric car powered on lithium batteries. I saw one on TechTV a while back. They guys put it together by using something like 6,800 laptop batteries and it could be charged by plugging into your 110 power outlet. That sure would be handy ;) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com

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                                    The efficiency of pure electric vehicles isn't that great. In fact, it is only marginally better than gasoline. And it might actually be less efficient than a hybrid engine, although I'm not sure about that. Remember, that electricity had to be generated somewhere. The generation and transmission process isn't that efficient. Fuel cells are the way to go. Unfortunately, they too require oil based fuels.* *That isn't necessarily true. They really only require hydrogen, but it can take more energy to extract hydrogen from a substance than what you get in return. It is relatively inexpensive to extract hydrogen from oil based fuels and the infrastructure is already in place.

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                                      I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog

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                                      how much do you pay for 1 gallon? (in sweden we pay about 5 dollars)

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                                        To help settle that part. When I was in California on earlier this year a US Gallon of Gas (petrol) was about $2.10 - $2.20. A US Gallon = 3.785 litres. All petrol prices in the UK are in litres. 1 litre of petrol in Edinburgh was about 79.9p (US$1.46). Which for one US Gallons is US$5.53 So that is 2.6 times more expensive.


                                        "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event

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                                        Jonas Larsson
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                                        Wow, your petrol are actually more expensive than ours... :confused: We pay about $1.33 per litre (10.48 SEK) here in Sweden. Nice to know that we're not no.1 in taxes for all things. ;P --- "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest". -- Denis Diderot

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                                          how much do you pay for 1 gallon? (in sweden we pay about 5 dollars)

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                                          Where I live, 87 octane is $1.88 per gallon, while 93 octane is $2.00 per gallon.


                                          "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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