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OK. I agree with you. But the government would probably also argue that they are also trying to dissuade people from using cars, so that they might travel by some more environmentally friendly method like bus, train, tram etc. Visit Riverside Internet[^] Visit Mike Puddephat Online[^]
Mike Puddephat wrote: But the government would probably also argue that they are also trying to dissuade people from using cars, so that they might travel by some more environmentally friendly method like bus, train, tram e Very probable, but I think they would do better by making the trains run on time and be cancelled less often. Twice this week my train was cancelled and every other day it was running late. Many people at hearing the cancellation announcement just got in their cars and drove to work. I currently do less that 10000miles a year in my car, I used to do 26000 because of a 100 mile round-trip commute. If we assume that the average driver does somewhere in the middle, say 16500 miles per year, and that the tax element is 8pence per mile that works out at £1320 per year in tax (US$2376). Each day 16,476,377 people travel to work by car[^] and if we assume that is a good indicator of total car ownership then the tax received from all those people is £21,748,817,640 (US$39.1bn) each year. And that does not include the annual Road Fund Licence (which brings in another £2billion (US$3.85bn)) How much is the west coast mainline upgrade to cost? Over how many years is that cost spread? How much would it cost to create a French TGV service from London to Edinburgh/Glasgow? How many years would that take to build? (Thus over how many years would the cost be spread?)
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Rob Manderson wrote: Don't forget that a US gallon is 25% smaller than a British gallon. True, but one would hope that the article I read regarding the 3x cost accounted for that. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
To help settle that part. When I was in California on earlier this year a US Gallon of Gas (petrol) was about $2.10 - $2.20. A US Gallon = 3.785 litres. All petrol prices in the UK are in litres. 1 litre of petrol in Edinburgh was about 79.9p (US$1.46). Which for one US Gallons is US$5.53 So that is 2.6 times more expensive.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: In the UK the effective tax rate is around 400% Wow. What do they do with that money? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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Tea. And Biscuits. Ginger ones. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? XmlTransformer, my latest CP article.
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I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
I would love to have an electric car powered on lithium batteries. I saw one on TechTV a while back. They guys put it together by using something like 6,800 laptop batteries and it could be charged by plugging into your 110 power outlet. That sure would be handy ;) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com
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I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
Tax on fuel in the UK is extortionate. Approx. 80% of the cost! That is why when we come over to the states we don't care about filling up our 5 litre hire cars! ;P Ant.
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Mike Puddephat wrote: dissuade people from using cars That really bugs me. :mad: The government treats all car users the same regardless of the availability of public transport in their area. I live in a smallish town where, if I didn't have a car, it would take at least 2 1/2 hours to get to work and require taking 2 trains and a bus. If I had a better memory I would remember more.
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I would love to have an electric car powered on lithium batteries. I saw one on TechTV a while back. They guys put it together by using something like 6,800 laptop batteries and it could be charged by plugging into your 110 power outlet. That sure would be handy ;) Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com www.GotTheAnswerToSpam.com
The efficiency of pure electric vehicles isn't that great. In fact, it is only marginally better than gasoline. And it might actually be less efficient than a hybrid engine, although I'm not sure about that. Remember, that electricity had to be generated somewhere. The generation and transmission process isn't that efficient. Fuel cells are the way to go. Unfortunately, they too require oil based fuels.* *That isn't necessarily true. They really only require hydrogen, but it can take more energy to extract hydrogen from a substance than what you get in return. It is relatively inexpensive to extract hydrogen from oil based fuels and the infrastructure is already in place.
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I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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To help settle that part. When I was in California on earlier this year a US Gallon of Gas (petrol) was about $2.10 - $2.20. A US Gallon = 3.785 litres. All petrol prices in the UK are in litres. 1 litre of petrol in Edinburgh was about 79.9p (US$1.46). Which for one US Gallons is US$5.53 So that is 2.6 times more expensive.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
Wow, your petrol are actually more expensive than ours... :confused: We pay about $1.33 per litre (10.48 SEK) here in Sweden. Nice to know that we're not no.1 in taxes for all things. ;P --- "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest". -- Denis Diderot
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Where I live, 87 octane is $1.88 per gallon, while 93 octane is $2.00 per gallon.
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olle wrote: how much do you pay for 1 gallon? (in sweden we pay about 5 dollars) Right now, $2.00 per gallon for premium unleaded. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
Well, let's see. Here in Germany we currently have to pay 1,19 Euro / US$ 1.44 per liter Super. For 1 US gallon we would have to pay 4,51 Euro or US$ 5.46. 73% of the gasoline price in Germany are taxes. We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. They expect prices to stay high over summer. Greetings,
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Well, let's see. Here in Germany we currently have to pay 1,19 Euro / US$ 1.44 per liter Super. For 1 US gallon we would have to pay 4,51 Euro or US$ 5.46. 73% of the gasoline price in Germany are taxes. We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. They expect prices to stay high over summer. Greetings,
heinz r. vahlbruch
vahlbruch.net
intelligent software systems
[email] [web]Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote: We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. Something's got to change. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote: We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. Something's got to change. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
Marc Clifton wrote: Something's got to change. it will. there haven't been any significant oil discoveries in decades; and China and India are increasing their consumption as they get richer. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
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I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
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Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote: We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. Something's got to change. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
Marc Clifton wrote: Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. I would like to see that in context. Assuming the numbers are accurate, the other 95% of the population do not all have gasoline-powered cars. The only way to make an accurate comparison would be to compare how many cars we have versus the amount of cars in all. For example, the U.S. has 15% of the world's cars, but uses 45% of the gasoline produced. That *might* reflect that the U.S. is using more than their fair share.
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Heinz R. Vahlbruch wrote: We are told by the oil groups that currently prices are high because the US are buying gasoline on the European market. They say, that the US don't have enough resources and capacities to produce enough unleaded fuel for their own people. Yes, in that article I read (can't find the link anymore), it pointed out that the US has 5% of the world's population and consumes 45% of the gasoline produced. Something's got to change. Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
Marc Clifton wrote: Something's got to change Most people are married to the concept of being able to drive their car. It is "transport democratisation" as I heard it called once. Although I don't drive nearly as much as I used to, I am planning to change to a Toyota Prius for my next car. It is a bit bigger that what I have now, but it gets better fuel economy, and qualifies for a cheaper tax band. [And if I ever go to London, I don't need to pay the congestion charge because it qualifies for excemption] As people start buying these cars the technology will get better and more efficient and hopefully it will be a stepping stone to wean everyone off petrol/deisel based combustion engines.
"You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar Coming soon: The Second EuroCPian Event
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I read yesterday that Europe pays almost 3x what we pay here in the US for a gallon of gasoline. Why? Marc Microsoft MVP, Visual C# MyXaml MyXaml Blog
Because Europeans are all Liberals. Tax the hell out of the people who drive the BAD BAD enviroment-endangering vehicles. http://www.knowledgegeek.com - Come on! I need the Traffic!